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If an NPC is telling the truth, what's the Insight DC to know they're telling the truth?
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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7587693" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>I'm not sure what you mean here. I wasn't really talking about puzzles or riddles in the sense you describe them. And anyway, it's bad scenario design in my view if a puzzle or riddle is a choke point in the adventure for the reason you gave in #2.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can't see all the posts that led the statement by [MENTION=6801328]Elfcrusher[/MENTION] that you quoted, but it is a matter of fact that the rules say that a check is appropriate only when there's uncertainty as to the outcome and a meaningful chance for failure. Now, Elfcrusher differs from me in that he or she does not appear to like the idea that characters can detect an NPC's lies, and prefers a certain level of uncertainty to remain in the players' minds. But that's another issue, one chiefly of narration of the result rather than whether or not there's an ability check.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7587693, member: 97077"] I'm not sure what you mean here. I wasn't really talking about puzzles or riddles in the sense you describe them. And anyway, it's bad scenario design in my view if a puzzle or riddle is a choke point in the adventure for the reason you gave in #2. I can't see all the posts that led the statement by [MENTION=6801328]Elfcrusher[/MENTION] that you quoted, but it is a matter of fact that the rules say that a check is appropriate only when there's uncertainty as to the outcome and a meaningful chance for failure. Now, Elfcrusher differs from me in that he or she does not appear to like the idea that characters can detect an NPC's lies, and prefers a certain level of uncertainty to remain in the players' minds. But that's another issue, one chiefly of narration of the result rather than whether or not there's an ability check. [/QUOTE]
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