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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7592197" data-attributes="member: 16814">A guard notices your attempt.&nbsp; You strain yourself and take damage.&nbsp; A wandering monster appears and you're still manacled.It's not hard if you make the mental leap to bad things must happen to then come up with bad things.&nbsp; It's endemic to the mindset that checks are just checks to not be able to see a consequence.&nbsp; Another point for &quot;our play isn't the same except for some wording.&quot;Again, you confuse your play for ours and assume our games do not provide the same kinds of satisfaction.&nbsp; I put it to you that mimicking the fiction of a police procedural does not rest on a specific preference for mechanical resolution.&nbsp; I get that kind of fiction just fine with my methods.&nbsp; Yours is not the only way to run an exciting or interesting mystery.&nbsp; The difference is what points get mechanical resolutions and, indeed, what actually counts as the mystery.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7592197, member: 16814"] A guard notices your attempt. You strain yourself and take damage. A wandering monster appears and you're still manacled. It's not hard if you make the mental leap to bad things must happen to then come up with bad things. It's endemic to the mindset that checks are just checks to not be able to see a consequence. Another point for "our play isn't the same except for some wording." Again, you confuse your play for ours and assume our games do not provide the same kinds of satisfaction. I put it to you that mimicking the [i]fiction[/i] of a police procedural does not rest on a specific preference for mechanical resolution. I get that kind of fiction just fine with my methods. Yours is not the only way to run an exciting or interesting mystery. The difference is what points get mechanical resolutions and, indeed, what actually counts as the mystery. [/QUOTE]

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