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If an NPC is telling the truth, what's the Insight DC to know they're telling the truth?
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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7595976" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>Which is why I continually advise against examples or analogies. In a debate of this nature, the people holding the opposing viewpoint are incentivized to pick apart the example for flaws and use them against you instead of using them to understand your position. I wish that wasn't so as examples can be illustrative and helpful; however, that is not the case when engaging with certain posters in particular. This is why adhering to rules is more effective in my view (and perhaps why we see objections to quoting rules).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The good thing about not punching back is that the people doing the punching tend not to be viewed in a positive light by people who are reading but not engaging in the debate. If the poster looks bad, then their position is often judged negatively. While a position shouldn't necessarily be judged by the poster presenting it but rather the soundness of their ideas, in a pragmatic sense it is of benefit to let them keep punching (and not return the attack) as it means they end up defeating themselves with their own words and behavior. In short, if your opponent is making a spectacle of themselves, step back and let them keep doing it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7595976, member: 97077"] Which is why I continually advise against examples or analogies. In a debate of this nature, the people holding the opposing viewpoint are incentivized to pick apart the example for flaws and use them against you instead of using them to understand your position. I wish that wasn't so as examples can be illustrative and helpful; however, that is not the case when engaging with certain posters in particular. This is why adhering to rules is more effective in my view (and perhaps why we see objections to quoting rules). The good thing about not punching back is that the people doing the punching tend not to be viewed in a positive light by people who are reading but not engaging in the debate. If the poster looks bad, then their position is often judged negatively. While a position shouldn't necessarily be judged by the poster presenting it but rather the soundness of their ideas, in a pragmatic sense it is of benefit to let them keep punching (and not return the attack) as it means they end up defeating themselves with their own words and behavior. In short, if your opponent is making a spectacle of themselves, step back and let them keep doing it. [/QUOTE]
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