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If an NPC is telling the truth, what's the Insight DC to know they're telling the truth?
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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7601885" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>Ugh, no choice, just a random number generator to determine the starting position for the fight. DM could have just rolled on a chart, put your characters where he or she wanted, and asked for initiative. The Dex saves and possibly passive Perception check is just a thin veneer that some choice you made during character creation or advancement mattered to the situation. And who knows if going left instead of right would have resulted in a different outcome in the first place.</p><p></p><p>I do have sympathy for some DMs though. The DMG has some decent rules for presenting and resolving traps, but as is clear from these discussions, it doesn't seem like anyone actually <em>reads</em> the book that tells the DM how to perform his or her role. Xanathar's has even better stuff for traps, but not every group uses that book and, if they do, it's typically just skimmed for PC options from what I see. So taken together, DMs are really kind of left to their own devices on how to present and resolve traps and many end up exactly with what you experienced above. Many don't even know that there's another way where player choice during play actually matters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7601885, member: 97077"] Ugh, no choice, just a random number generator to determine the starting position for the fight. DM could have just rolled on a chart, put your characters where he or she wanted, and asked for initiative. The Dex saves and possibly passive Perception check is just a thin veneer that some choice you made during character creation or advancement mattered to the situation. And who knows if going left instead of right would have resulted in a different outcome in the first place. I do have sympathy for some DMs though. The DMG has some decent rules for presenting and resolving traps, but as is clear from these discussions, it doesn't seem like anyone actually [I]reads[/I] the book that tells the DM how to perform his or her role. Xanathar's has even better stuff for traps, but not every group uses that book and, if they do, it's typically just skimmed for PC options from what I see. So taken together, DMs are really kind of left to their own devices on how to present and resolve traps and many end up exactly with what you experienced above. Many don't even know that there's another way where player choice during play actually matters. [/QUOTE]
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