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<blockquote data-quote="Anastrace" data-source="post: 6021059" data-attributes="member: 6700202">Oh traps, how I love you. Seriously, how fun is it to realize you worked hard on your character and you have the effectiveness of a wet shoestring? I've never understood the idea of system mastery being needed. Before someone asks, yes we've run into these issues in pf, and we've had to kind of shoo each other off from them. Because while an archetype, class, feature, feat, .... might be good in the end of the almighty numbers (bleh) it doesn't measure up.Making options a fair tradeoff sounds good to me. A wizard who wants to do melee? So lower spells per day, kind of like a bard in 3/pf, and armor them with a better attack bonus / wp. I've only been playing a couple years, so I'm guessing my points don't count for much but hey I'm going to make them anyway. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Anastrace, post: 6021059, member: 6700202"] Oh traps, how I love you. Seriously, how fun is it to realize you worked hard on your character and you have the effectiveness of a wet shoestring? I've never understood the idea of system mastery being needed. Before someone asks, yes we've run into these issues in pf, and we've had to kind of shoo each other off from them. Because while an archetype, class, feature, feat, .... might be good in the end of the almighty numbers (bleh) it doesn't measure up. Making options a fair tradeoff sounds good to me. A wizard who wants to do melee? So lower spells per day, kind of like a bard in 3/pf, and armor them with a better attack bonus / wp. I've only been playing a couple years, so I'm guessing my points don't count for much but hey I'm going to make them anyway. :p [/QUOTE]

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