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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8199609" data-attributes="member: 18">Anime combat/magic is directly and indirectly heavily inspired by D&amp;D - many of the big earlier magic-heavy animes are directly D&amp;D-inspired. Those that aren't are often JRPG-inspired, which was D&amp;D-inspired. You're flatly wrong to say &quot;It developed outside of D&amp;D&quot; as a general claim. There are other inspirations too, but fantasy anime would be completely different in character without D&amp;D, far more focused on actual mythology.So you're very wrong here, I'm afraid. It's not even hard to demonstrate if you look at the history of anime.I also don't agree that people would see these different mechanics/ideas as &quot;hard to melt into the same skeleton&quot;. On the contrary, I think people would think it was pretty easy, aside from the most outre stuff.Aldarc, what the hell dude?Did you even read the thread? This is ignorant of you to post. It's unlike you! No-one is worshipping Gygax.A specific scenario was proposed - somehow, D&amp;D doesn't come into existence AND no other RPGs as we know them appear in the intervening period. That's in the OP. Do you see that? The AND is important. Yes, it's unlikely, but it's part of the scenario. If you don't want to address the scenario, fine, but don't come in here obviously not having read the OP even and saying everyone is &quot;worshipping Gygax&quot;. If anything, Arneson was the one who made RPGs, RPGs, but someone else would have come up with it (though I suspect not until the 1990s myself). We, however, are looking at a scenario where nobody did until around 2020.Further, tons of stuff is massively D&amp;D-influenced. Obviously fantasy exists without D&amp;D, but it's going to be very distinctly different without D&amp;D, because the influence has been significant. As time wears on, the difference will increase, too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8199609, member: 18"] Anime combat/magic is directly and indirectly heavily inspired by D&D - many of the big earlier magic-heavy animes are directly D&D-inspired. Those that aren't are often JRPG-inspired, which was D&D-inspired. You're flatly wrong to say "It developed outside of D&D" as a general claim. There are other inspirations too, but fantasy anime would be completely different in character without D&D, far more focused on actual mythology. So you're very wrong here, I'm afraid. It's not even hard to demonstrate if you look at the history of anime. I also don't agree that people would see these different mechanics/ideas as "hard to melt into the same skeleton". On the contrary, I think people would think it was pretty easy, aside from the most outre stuff. Aldarc, what the hell dude? Did you even read the thread? This is ignorant of you to post. It's unlike you! No-one is worshipping Gygax. A specific scenario was proposed - somehow, D&D doesn't come into existence AND no other RPGs as we know them appear in the intervening period. That's in the OP. Do you see that? The AND is important. Yes, it's unlikely, but it's part of the scenario. If you don't want to address the scenario, fine, but don't come in here obviously not having read the OP even and saying everyone is "worshipping Gygax". If anything, Arneson was the one who made RPGs, RPGs, but someone else would have come up with it (though I suspect not until the 1990s myself). We, however, are looking at a scenario where nobody did until around 2020. Further, tons of stuff is massively D&D-influenced. Obviously fantasy exists without D&D, but it's going to be very distinctly different without D&D, because the influence has been significant. As time wears on, the difference will increase, too. [/QUOTE]

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