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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 4090970" data-attributes="member: 17077">Okay... so Eladrin aren't another Elf race but they're the new Gray Elves?  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> Yes, Eladrin are another Elf race. They look identical to Elves. They are distant cousins in their lore. They are different mostly in their culture and preferences. They are simply a subtype of Elf. There's really no reason they couldn't have kept Elves like they were in 3e, where they loved both nature and magic.I'm glad they consolidated the dozens of Elf subtypes, but Elves and their kin are almost half of the races in the PHB now! Yet they couldn't make room for Gnomes and Half-Orcs? Why couldn't they have just saved the Eladrin for the MM? Considering their extra-planar origins, that would have been totally appropriate, and left room for my beloved Gnomes, who have been a core race in D&D for decades. But no, who cares about tradition or variety when you can play a sexy, pointy-eared Elf (who are now taller, to increase their allure).  :\</blockquote>