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If gnomes had the eladrin's powers would that make them more appealing?
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<blockquote data-quote="Keenath" data-source="post: 4091989" data-attributes="member: 59792"><p>It won't be a chart. From what Noonan has said, it sounds like monster races will be just like PC races -- you get a list of up-front abilities and a list of feat or power options that become available as you level up. They won't necessarily get as much writeup, but they will probably get a paragraph or two each, if not a half-page column.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it's just not quite right to say "you don't get as much support" and equate that to "weaker".</p><p></p><p>First, I imagine a minotaur will have as many options as a core dwarf or elf -- it sounds like each race will have three or four optional racial abilities, and it won't be hard to include that many in the MM.</p><p></p><p>Second, what future support does or doesn't do will not necessarily make core races 'stronger' than monstrous races -- it may just mean fewer options that are added later.</p><p></p><p>Third, on the other hand, why would a bunch of new dwarf racial abilities come out anyway? They're trying NOT to do thing like the Dwarven Defender or Arcane Archer that have racial requirements. Seems to me that it's more likely for later supplements to add more races, each of which has its own suite of three or four optional racial powers.</p><p></p><p>Fourth, if the monster race is important to a particular setting, that setting will have lots of information about them. I expect the MM Warforged-PC writeup to be pretty short, but I equally expect a decent several pages in the Eberron CS next year, and possibly more options for warforged characters. Likewise minotaurs -- what was it, Dragonlance where they were important? -- will get extra love in a CS that features them. They also mentioned doing a Savage Species style book in a few years that caters specifically to monster-race PCs, so that might well have the extra attention you're looking for, for races that AREN'T especially interesting to one setting or another.</p><p></p><p>Lastly -- Even if your most pessimistic situation happens and dwarves get lots of future support and minotaurs don't -- so what? It's a monster race. It's not a core race. It's meant to be a fringe sort of thing. Future MMs will have additional monster races, rather than further options for the existing ones.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Keenath, post: 4091989, member: 59792"] It won't be a chart. From what Noonan has said, it sounds like monster races will be just like PC races -- you get a list of up-front abilities and a list of feat or power options that become available as you level up. They won't necessarily get as much writeup, but they will probably get a paragraph or two each, if not a half-page column. I think it's just not quite right to say "you don't get as much support" and equate that to "weaker". First, I imagine a minotaur will have as many options as a core dwarf or elf -- it sounds like each race will have three or four optional racial abilities, and it won't be hard to include that many in the MM. Second, what future support does or doesn't do will not necessarily make core races 'stronger' than monstrous races -- it may just mean fewer options that are added later. Third, on the other hand, why would a bunch of new dwarf racial abilities come out anyway? They're trying NOT to do thing like the Dwarven Defender or Arcane Archer that have racial requirements. Seems to me that it's more likely for later supplements to add more races, each of which has its own suite of three or four optional racial powers. Fourth, if the monster race is important to a particular setting, that setting will have lots of information about them. I expect the MM Warforged-PC writeup to be pretty short, but I equally expect a decent several pages in the Eberron CS next year, and possibly more options for warforged characters. Likewise minotaurs -- what was it, Dragonlance where they were important? -- will get extra love in a CS that features them. They also mentioned doing a Savage Species style book in a few years that caters specifically to monster-race PCs, so that might well have the extra attention you're looking for, for races that AREN'T especially interesting to one setting or another. Lastly -- Even if your most pessimistic situation happens and dwarves get lots of future support and minotaurs don't -- so what? It's a monster race. It's not a core race. It's meant to be a fringe sort of thing. Future MMs will have additional monster races, rather than further options for the existing ones. [/QUOTE]
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