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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cactot" data-source="post: 4096335" data-attributes="member: 13700">Although I do not disagree with you, i HATE this.  I absolutely detest the way they went with racial selections in 4e, so far it is one of my very few complaints.  I HATE tieflings (omg i am so r0x i have demon blood!), tall super-model elves (oh wow! i look like a stick figure and am ripped directly out of JRRT's writing), and dragonborn (i am a dragon, RAWR!  the only dragon-men i have liked were the guys from dragonlance who turned to stone when you killed them)A list of better replacements:GNOMES (gnomes are full of win, mabye some innate illusion powers or something, also good dex/int and natural bonuses to hide)  maybe a whispergnome or forest gnome variant would be rad tooGoblins/Kobolds (small, ugly and often evil fun races!)Bugbears (strong, ugly and often evil super fun race! the coolest of the goblinoids, IMHO and not nearly as boring as orcs / half-orcs)Half-Giant (must all big/strong races be ugly and evil? i think not!)If you must have two versions of elves have one stouter and medium height (the wood/wild elf style) and have the other shorter and thinner and more magical (standard mythology style).  Or give those magical abilites to the gnomes and just eliminate the second style of elf completely.</blockquote>