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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 388943" data-attributes="member: 1757">Not to continue beating the horse, but:Spell immunity does nothing against harm (it's capped at 4th-level spells).The Reach Spell feat (T&amp;B) and the divine reach ability of the hierophant prestige class (FRCS) get around most of the other problems. There's also a greater spectral hand spell floating around in a S&amp;S product, IIRC. Granted, these are supplements, but be sure that harm is balanced for YOUR campaign, and your campaign might include some of these.As you may have realized, it's likely that heal/harm fall, at least thematically, within the cure/inflict line of spells. As such, a Will save seems appropriate. The Necro spells that trigger Fort saves are generally spells with the [Death] designator.I'm glad you don't have a problem with the Will half solution any more, Anubis. I don't see why you did in the first place, though. The Will half solution is exactly in line with inflict spells and other damage-dealing spells (which is essentially what harm is), and does mean that harm never will inflict more damage on a successful save than on a failed one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 388943, member: 1757"] Not to continue beating the horse, but: [i]Spell immunity[/i] does nothing against [i]harm[/i] (it's capped at 4th-level spells). The Reach Spell feat (T&B) and the divine reach ability of the hierophant prestige class (FRCS) get around most of the other problems. There's also a [i]greater spectral hand[/i] spell floating around in a S&S product, IIRC. Granted, these are supplements, but be sure that [i]harm[/i] is balanced for YOUR campaign, and your campaign might include some of these. As you may have realized, it's likely that heal/harm fall, at least thematically, within the cure/inflict line of spells. As such, a Will save seems appropriate. The Necro spells that trigger Fort saves are generally spells with the [Death] designator. I'm glad you don't have a problem with the Will half solution any more, Anubis. I don't see why you did in the first place, though. The Will half solution is exactly in line with inflict spells and other damage-dealing spells (which is essentially what harm is), and does mean that harm never will inflict more damage on a successful save than on a failed one. [/QUOTE]

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