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<blockquote data-quote="Al" data-source="post: 389786" data-attributes="member: 2486">demiurge: Welcome to the boards!Now you're welcome, you're prone to attack <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> .The problem with your solution is that it is, in fact, very weak.&nbsp; Damage equal to CLx5, and only on a touch attack compares very poorly with other spells of similar potency.&nbsp; Since most direct-damage spells that require a touch attack remove the need for a saving throw (as per ELH's guidelines for creating new spells), we can compare the damage directly with traditional blast spells.We see that it compares poorly.&nbsp; At 11th level, Harm does 55 damage.&nbsp; At this level of spell, it is clearly outmatched by, say, Maximised Fireball or Empowered Flame Strike, which, in addition to inflicting a similar amount of damage, inflict this amount of damage over a wider area.&nbsp; Your fix makes Harm from a 'must-have' spell to a 'don't-bother' one.&nbsp; A higher cap, or a save (for either half or fixed damage + level) would be more in line with the power of Harm relative to its level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Al, post: 389786, member: 2486"] demiurge: Welcome to the boards! Now you're welcome, you're prone to attack :D . The problem with your solution is that it is, in fact, very weak. Damage equal to CLx5, and only on a touch attack compares very poorly with other spells of similar potency. Since most direct-damage spells that require a touch attack remove the need for a saving throw (as per ELH's guidelines for creating new spells), we can compare the damage directly with traditional blast spells. We see that it compares poorly. At 11th level, Harm does 55 damage. At this level of spell, it is clearly outmatched by, say, Maximised Fireball or Empowered Flame Strike, which, in addition to inflicting a similar amount of damage, inflict this amount of damage over a wider area. Your fix makes Harm from a 'must-have' spell to a 'don't-bother' one. A higher cap, or a save (for either half or fixed damage + level) would be more in line with the power of Harm relative to its level. [/QUOTE]

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