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Message: <blockquote data-quote="demiurgeastaroth" data-source="post: 395308" data-attributes="member: 7532">Which is exactly my intention, since I believe the damage the spell does is overpowered.While the Great dragon example I agree is a problem, it's not the problem I wanted to tackle. The other solutions I've seen all seem to address the dragon problem - but ignore the fact that 90% or more of the targets of Harm will not be dragons. What about PCs with 100-200 hit points, Titans, Solars, and lesser creatures - ALL of these creatures are effected by a 10Hp/level cap pretty much the same as if the standard rule were used - they drop to a tiny amount of hp.The save for half option avoids this but I don't like the idea of a save - it then can be compared to save-or-die spells unfavourably but is still a massively over-powered damage-dealing spell: it should be one or the other, and I opted for a damage-dealing approach.The other thing with Save for half: what happens if it is affected a second time and saves? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I agree - and 100hp (my approach) is a lot closer to 200hp than 19000hp, so we are pretty close to agreement on that point.I was considering a Greater Heal spell gained at the same level as Mass Heal - this would do 10hp per level. So characters could heal once character a lot, or heal a group for less.There would probably [/] be no Greater Harm, just as there is no Mass Harm, since inflicting 200hp at 20th level is just as damaging to non-dragon opponents as the official Harm spell.</blockquote>

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