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<blockquote data-quote="Graf" data-source="post: 4424694" data-attributes="member: 3087">Hm. I confess to being fairly unpersuaded by the &quot;LEW doesn't do this so we shouldn't even consider it&quot; argument.In the best of all possible worlds people do exactly what you want them to do without any encouragement.But this world is not that one; people respond to mild encouragement.I'm not saying everything should be implemented. I don't necessarily like everything that I suggested.But I'm not really sure what your objections are...You seem to have decided you don't like it, and marshaled objections (some are self contradictory; some are already addressed above) without really thinking about the existing problems OOC points could potentially solve.[d]--[/d]RE: DMs judging players. You seem to be simultaneously suggesting that DMs shouldn't judge players and that they should.I think you can't have it both ways. Either you want no judgment or you want judgment but you can't say &quot;we shouldn't judge people&quot; and &quot;dms do a good job of judging people already on a completely unstructured basis so we shouldn't judge people&quot;.it's illogical.Since you're not really reading it closely (I said &quot;may&quot; so there's no problem with no-good players) I have the feeling that you're trying to stop the conversation without actually conversing about it.[d]--[/d]Rewarding people for historical/archiving/note taking, as you've pointed out, is something that 1. Is a problem with LEW/LEB2. We could do something about with OOC pointsso why try to cut off debate without thinking about it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Graf, post: 4424694, member: 3087"] Hm. I confess to being fairly unpersuaded by the "LEW doesn't do this so we shouldn't even consider it" argument. In the best of all possible worlds people do exactly what you want them to do without any encouragement. But this world is not that one; people respond to mild encouragement. I'm not saying everything should be implemented. I don't necessarily like everything that I suggested. But I'm not really sure what your objections are... You seem to have decided you don't like it, and marshaled objections (some are self contradictory; some are already addressed above) without really thinking about the existing problems OOC points could potentially solve. [d]--[/d] RE: DMs judging players. You seem to be simultaneously suggesting that DMs shouldn't judge players and that they should. I think you can't have it both ways. Either you want no judgment or you want judgment but you can't say "we shouldn't judge people" and "dms do a good job of judging people already on a completely unstructured basis so we shouldn't judge people". it's illogical. Since you're not really reading it closely (I said "may" so there's no problem with no-good players) I have the feeling that you're trying to stop the conversation without actually conversing about it. [d]--[/d] Rewarding people for historical/archiving/note taking, as you've pointed out, is something that 1. Is a problem with LEW/LEB 2. We could do something about with OOC points so why try to cut off debate without thinking about it? [/QUOTE]

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