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<blockquote data-quote="Volaran" data-source="post: 50333" data-attributes="member: 592">I've been helping my current DM with his world design process.&nbsp; He asked me to do the mechanics of the various races, new feats, prestige classes, ect. while he takes care of the main elements, as he feels that I'm better at balancing things, keeping with the system and such.&nbsp;&nbsp; Thus far I've had little trouble, and have been enjoying it, but coming to races, I find I have some problems.He has several humanoid feline races that are puzzling me.&nbsp; Two in particular.The first race is the Cheeth, obviously relating to humanoid, cheeta type people.&nbsp; He wants their charges to be &quot;the most deadly and terrifying in the world&quot; as well as continuously referring to them being able to move at 60 miles an hour.&nbsp; Now, I like the Sprint extrordiany ability, but for a creature with a 30 base movement rate, it isn't quite as fast.&nbsp; In addition, I gather he wants the fearsome nature of the charge to be reflected by extra damage of some sort and I'm unsure how to justify this, as charge damage doesn't seem dependant on movement rate.So, basically, does anyone have an idea how I might represent these.&nbsp; I thought the Sprint ability might be more acceptable if the base movement was higher...but that's all I'd been thinking of as of yet.THe second race, the Leonine are lion-like humanoids.&nbsp; They just manage to be in the Large size catagory.&nbsp; The way he described them seems quite powerful, but he doesn't want them to have an ECL increase.&nbsp; He did want bonuses to Constitution and Strength, but the only penalties that might apply to them are Dexterity and Charisma, and not in an equal way.&nbsp; They're a very warlike race, with an admiration for brute strength, but at the same time highly focused and with a sophisticated culture.&nbsp; I was hoping someone might be able to suggest a few negatives (not necessarily in terms of ability scores) that might balance this out.Sorry that this is fairly vague, but I want to get a few ideas before I go back and discuss with him how to go about this in a balanced way.Thanks in advance!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Volaran, post: 50333, member: 592"] I've been helping my current DM with his world design process. He asked me to do the mechanics of the various races, new feats, prestige classes, ect. while he takes care of the main elements, as he feels that I'm better at balancing things, keeping with the system and such. Thus far I've had little trouble, and have been enjoying it, but coming to races, I find I have some problems. He has several humanoid feline races that are puzzling me. Two in particular. The first race is the Cheeth, obviously relating to humanoid, cheeta type people. He wants their charges to be "the most deadly and terrifying in the world" as well as continuously referring to them being able to move at 60 miles an hour. Now, I like the Sprint extrordiany ability, but for a creature with a 30 base movement rate, it isn't quite as fast. In addition, I gather he wants the fearsome nature of the charge to be reflected by extra damage of some sort and I'm unsure how to justify this, as charge damage doesn't seem dependant on movement rate. So, basically, does anyone have an idea how I might represent these. I thought the Sprint ability might be more acceptable if the base movement was higher...but that's all I'd been thinking of as of yet. THe second race, the Leonine are lion-like humanoids. They just manage to be in the Large size catagory. The way he described them seems quite powerful, but he doesn't want them to have an ECL increase. He did want bonuses to Constitution and Strength, but the only penalties that might apply to them are Dexterity and Charisma, and not in an equal way. They're a very warlike race, with an admiration for brute strength, but at the same time highly focused and with a sophisticated culture. I was hoping someone might be able to suggest a few negatives (not necessarily in terms of ability scores) that might balance this out. Sorry that this is fairly vague, but I want to get a few ideas before I go back and discuss with him how to go about this in a balanced way. Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE]

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