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<blockquote data-quote="Evenglare" data-source="post: 6213878" data-attributes="member: 63245"><p>The thing that turns me off with 5th edition (other than wizards rampant use of the word iteration explicitly used to side step the word "edition") is when it started with 4th edition. Let me clarify. I love 4th edition, absolutely love it. I also love 3.5, pathfinder etc etc. But wizards has this way of hyping their game up then abandoning it before it's "done". So let me explain. 3.5 was out and I had bought every 3.5 book available and was a very loyal customer. They then announce 4th edition which was the 2nd coming of christ. It would fix all our issues with the game and would be the best edition ever etc etc. Then it comes out and us 3.5 supporters basically have to buy the same books over again with new rules. I mean... essentially that is exactly what happened. That's fine. 4th edition did fix the rules etc etc. I was annoyed but OK, this is THE D&D. Great!</p><p></p><p>Then they announce essentials, the ever green product that would be the foundation of D&D for the foreseeable future, it would provide an entry point and be compatible with 4th edition products but the new rules would be in the essential format which should satisfy those 3.5 people who liked THOSE rules..... Ok.... So we buy the essentials books, and then people have issues with it. It wasn't what was promised, or at least it didn't live up to the hype. </p><p></p><p>Fast forward to the beginning of last year. D&D NEXT is announced this new "iteration"! It will address the complaints of past editions (as 4th edition claimed to) and unite the fans with old school rule styles (like essentials claimed to). And now guess what?! You get to buy all the books again you bought for 3.5 and then AGAIN for 4th edition (i never played 2nd but I can only imagine this feeling is compounded by the people who have all THOSE books). </p><p></p><p>I'm pretty damn tired of being gouged by wizards to buy their most current version of D&D when , as history tells us from 4th edition, they will just abandon the damn game and start a new edition if enough people complain. Why I say "abandon" is that 4th edition was not finished... at all... they did not give us a DM 3 guide which should have addressed epic tier play. It pisses me off the more I think about it. Mike Mearls and clan always seem to say " HEY LOOK AT THIS NEW THING WE ARE GOING TO DO!!!!!" then they do it, and contract some sort of ADD where they abandon what they are trying to do and say " HEY STOP LOOKING AT THAT THING WE JUST DID AND LOOK AT THIS COOL NEW THING!!!". </p><p></p><p>Then I know many people will come back with "Hey, you don't HAVE to buy the books, just play with what you have" And to those people I say "I enjoy playing a game that is supported by the company that makes it". I don't want to convert rules from the newest edition the old one I am playing, I want my game to be supported. </p><p></p><p>TLDR; FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP CHANGING EDITIONS AND STICK WITH ONE !</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Evenglare, post: 6213878, member: 63245"] The thing that turns me off with 5th edition (other than wizards rampant use of the word iteration explicitly used to side step the word "edition") is when it started with 4th edition. Let me clarify. I love 4th edition, absolutely love it. I also love 3.5, pathfinder etc etc. But wizards has this way of hyping their game up then abandoning it before it's "done". So let me explain. 3.5 was out and I had bought every 3.5 book available and was a very loyal customer. They then announce 4th edition which was the 2nd coming of christ. It would fix all our issues with the game and would be the best edition ever etc etc. Then it comes out and us 3.5 supporters basically have to buy the same books over again with new rules. I mean... essentially that is exactly what happened. That's fine. 4th edition did fix the rules etc etc. I was annoyed but OK, this is THE D&D. Great! Then they announce essentials, the ever green product that would be the foundation of D&D for the foreseeable future, it would provide an entry point and be compatible with 4th edition products but the new rules would be in the essential format which should satisfy those 3.5 people who liked THOSE rules..... Ok.... So we buy the essentials books, and then people have issues with it. It wasn't what was promised, or at least it didn't live up to the hype. Fast forward to the beginning of last year. D&D NEXT is announced this new "iteration"! It will address the complaints of past editions (as 4th edition claimed to) and unite the fans with old school rule styles (like essentials claimed to). And now guess what?! You get to buy all the books again you bought for 3.5 and then AGAIN for 4th edition (i never played 2nd but I can only imagine this feeling is compounded by the people who have all THOSE books). I'm pretty damn tired of being gouged by wizards to buy their most current version of D&D when , as history tells us from 4th edition, they will just abandon the damn game and start a new edition if enough people complain. Why I say "abandon" is that 4th edition was not finished... at all... they did not give us a DM 3 guide which should have addressed epic tier play. It pisses me off the more I think about it. Mike Mearls and clan always seem to say " HEY LOOK AT THIS NEW THING WE ARE GOING TO DO!!!!!" then they do it, and contract some sort of ADD where they abandon what they are trying to do and say " HEY STOP LOOKING AT THAT THING WE JUST DID AND LOOK AT THIS COOL NEW THING!!!". Then I know many people will come back with "Hey, you don't HAVE to buy the books, just play with what you have" And to those people I say "I enjoy playing a game that is supported by the company that makes it". I don't want to convert rules from the newest edition the old one I am playing, I want my game to be supported. TLDR; FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP CHANGING EDITIONS AND STICK WITH ONE ! [/QUOTE]
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