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<blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 4742109" data-attributes="member: 23977"><p>I understand what you're saying, but I also think maybe I'm not making the right point. I though about it a bit over the weekend:</p><p></p><p>Even when it comes to some things magical and some things mundane, sometimes you have to be willing to kind of recanoiter the mundane in order for the two to mesh. Afterall what good is superman's ability to lift a building if physics never lets him do it?</p><p></p><p>That's where what I like to call the FUNdane comes in. It's the part where the two meet. In order to showcase superman's great stregnth he lifts a building, and doesn't break through it instead. In order to have a "cool" thing like a dragon, we make fundane say sure, lizards can fly if they just had wings.</p><p></p><p>In D&D this also doesn't just mean a magic layer connected to a mundane layer. The "magic" layer can sometimes simply mean the outrageous parts. IE the dragon... it's not really magic, but we fundane physics a bit so that for the most part it's the same but some stuff is different. (Because it's fun.)</p><p></p><p>We see this in other artistic mediums as well... IE in real life watching someone run a DNA test over the course of a number of weeks in a sterile lab is BORRING. But if you fundane it a bit, and make it happen much faster, in a visualy stimulating fashion that meshes well to a techno beat? Now it's fun!</p><p></p><p>The problem is that everyone's level of fundane they're willing to accept is different. </p><p></p><p>My wife is in fact a research biologist studying breast cancer, so CSI really bugs her. It's all done too quickly and easily, they aren't at all sterile, and too small of a group to do as much as they do. The pay off just isn't worth it for her.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand she really likes Fringe. Half the time he's just babbling scientific buzz words when he talks about mundane science, but the end result is so much fun that she doesn't mind. </p><p></p><p>In a social game like D&D this can cause issues though. IE the DM's fundane annoys one of his players, and it's especialy true if it hinder's the player in some way. "What do you mean he made it accross the lava and did that much damage??? Lava should kill him instanty there's no way he could do that!"</p><p></p><p>I think in the end it's just going to be one of those things that's different for everyone, and various groups have to come to their own consensus about the level of fundane they're willing to accept.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scribble, post: 4742109, member: 23977"] I understand what you're saying, but I also think maybe I'm not making the right point. I though about it a bit over the weekend: Even when it comes to some things magical and some things mundane, sometimes you have to be willing to kind of recanoiter the mundane in order for the two to mesh. Afterall what good is superman's ability to lift a building if physics never lets him do it? That's where what I like to call the FUNdane comes in. It's the part where the two meet. In order to showcase superman's great stregnth he lifts a building, and doesn't break through it instead. In order to have a "cool" thing like a dragon, we make fundane say sure, lizards can fly if they just had wings. In D&D this also doesn't just mean a magic layer connected to a mundane layer. The "magic" layer can sometimes simply mean the outrageous parts. IE the dragon... it's not really magic, but we fundane physics a bit so that for the most part it's the same but some stuff is different. (Because it's fun.) We see this in other artistic mediums as well... IE in real life watching someone run a DNA test over the course of a number of weeks in a sterile lab is BORRING. But if you fundane it a bit, and make it happen much faster, in a visualy stimulating fashion that meshes well to a techno beat? Now it's fun! The problem is that everyone's level of fundane they're willing to accept is different. My wife is in fact a research biologist studying breast cancer, so CSI really bugs her. It's all done too quickly and easily, they aren't at all sterile, and too small of a group to do as much as they do. The pay off just isn't worth it for her. On the other hand she really likes Fringe. Half the time he's just babbling scientific buzz words when he talks about mundane science, but the end result is so much fun that she doesn't mind. In a social game like D&D this can cause issues though. IE the DM's fundane annoys one of his players, and it's especialy true if it hinder's the player in some way. "What do you mean he made it accross the lava and did that much damage??? Lava should kill him instanty there's no way he could do that!" I think in the end it's just going to be one of those things that's different for everyone, and various groups have to come to their own consensus about the level of fundane they're willing to accept. [/QUOTE]
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