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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8711878" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>Then why are you in this thread? From what I've seen, there's one group of posters in this argument are the ones saying "the superior way to play D&D is permanent character death", and "this is how you should play D&D", and other ways saying/dog-whistling that the other side is badwrongfun, and the other group of people is just explaining that you don't need to have PC death in the campaign in order for the game to be meaningful. Because if you want people to accept that your style of play is valid, that's done already. People get that. What other people aren't getting is that it's also valid to play without permanent character death. If you get that, we have no beef. But if you don't and agree with the people that profess that it's "superior/better" to play with permanent character death, that's where I take issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>