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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aus_Snow" data-source="post: 5320407" data-attributes="member: 29112">"There will be no 4.5" (word for word, IIRC) must surely be one of the reasons why. So, dishonesty, perceived or otherwise - and likewise, lack of credibility, perceived or otherwise. Then there are the several ways in which WotC has destroyed sections of their actual and/or potential customer base, at various times. Including cases where perceptions of dishonesty and zero credibility might enter into it. Major broken promises, even written into the very first corebook itself, could add to it.I won't argue (or believe) for a second that there aren't plenty of silly, unfair, and just plain ludicrous reasons for people to have something against WotC. Obviously, that would be pretty daft, or hey, dishonest. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />But, WotC really haven't done themselves very many favours in the last couple of years. I mean, 3.5 didn't help either, come to think of it - this isn't about 3e vs. 4e, it's about marketing, business decisions, perceptions, and so on.</blockquote>