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<blockquote data-quote="LuckyAdrastus" data-source="post: 5322929" data-attributes="member: 82859">I'd largely agree, though I think the premise of the original question was &quot;why does WotC get more flak for changes than other companies get for similar changes?&quot;&nbsp; Many of the posters here who play Pathfinder have disputed that the changes mentioned in the OP are of the same magnitude of the changes from 3.5 to 4e (or from 4e to &quot;Essentials/4e/4.5/4e with errata/whatever, though many would dispute there is much of a change).&nbsp; I'm not especially familiar with Pathfinder (and would avoid praising/criticizing stuff I'm unfamiliar with) so I don't know how extensive those changes are.I'm more chiming in because I have observed that there is a subset of critics of 4e/WotC who seem motivated by their dislike of 4e to criticize 4e/WotC merely for existing/making new rules/or no matter what design decision is made on a certain issue (i.e. they will criticize WotC no matter what it does).&nbsp; Obviously, that doesn't apply to all critics, and there has been some substantive criticisms.&nbsp; But other stuff just seems like hyperbole to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LuckyAdrastus, post: 5322929, member: 82859"] I'd largely agree, though I think the premise of the original question was "why does WotC get more flak for changes than other companies get for similar changes?" Many of the posters here who play Pathfinder have disputed that the changes mentioned in the OP are of the same magnitude of the changes from 3.5 to 4e (or from 4e to "Essentials/4e/4.5/4e with errata/whatever, though many would dispute there is much of a change). I'm not especially familiar with Pathfinder (and would avoid praising/criticizing stuff I'm unfamiliar with) so I don't know how extensive those changes are. I'm more chiming in because I have observed that there is a subset of critics of 4e/WotC who seem motivated by their dislike of 4e to criticize 4e/WotC merely for existing/making new rules/or no matter what design decision is made on a certain issue (i.e. they will criticize WotC no matter what it does). Obviously, that doesn't apply to all critics, and there has been some substantive criticisms. But other stuff just seems like hyperbole to me. [/QUOTE]

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