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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5323126" data-attributes="member: 6957">Mercurius - As stated above, there are a lot of people who disagree with you, and that no, a completely new game with the old name was not the only way to go. That the game would not have stagnated and entered a new dark age had they gone with something closer to the older versions of the game. That is, in my opinion, rather a silly claim on your part. More and more it seems that you are willfully disagreeing with the fact that people are stating their opinions, how they are stating their opinions, and that those opinions disagree with your own....As for the DDI - The DDI is updated when new books come out, yes?New books come out nearly every month, yes?If you want to have the critters and characters up to date then yes, you do need to spend that $10 a month.And I am not even complaining about that! As I said, it likely is worth that $10 a month for those updates. That had it been available for the previous edition I likely would have subscribed at $10 a month. It is however still an exchange of money for the greater convenience, even if it is worth the money. Just like buying the books involves the exchange of money for the expanded content. It is a matter of choice, if you feel that the exchange is worthwhile then it is.It seems that you keep changing your point as to why WotC has not earned the ire that they have indeed earned. They have earned it whether you feel that ire is just or unjust, whether the rules have been changed for the better or the worse. More and more, as this thread progresses you are waging an edition war, on the grounds that WotC is being unfairly singled out for their actions. Ire is emotional, it is based on opinion. The examples you chose were poorly based, not similar to the conclusion that you were trying to draw. Then you try to invalidate others' opinions, even though your opinions are no more valid, or invalid, than those opinions.It would appear that WotC did a bad job of promoting the game in some quarters - whether or not the new edition is a good game. And some seem to be taking the line that WotC, in its ineffable wisdom, could not have made those mistakes. They could make those mistakes, and they did. They managed to turn away a goodly number of people from their game, before it even hit the shelves.If White Wolf changed their game so that it was incompatible, across the board, with the old Storyteller system then they would get the same backlash.And they have done so, and they did get that backlash. And they deserved it, just like WotC deserves the complaints that they are getting. And a lot of people continued to play the older versions of Storyteller, rather than update to the new.If Mongoose changed the rules for Rune-Quest so that they became largely incompatible with the materials from the previous three editions then they would deserve the resulting complaints.And they did, and they do. (Enough so that I still use RQ 3, even though the new version is out. On the rare occasions that I get to run RQ at all.)Those are much closer comparisons than the ones you chose, except that they come to the opposite conclusion than the one that you want to draw. That yes, if other companies did what WotC did they would, and do get complaints. Instead you chose examples that did not apply, then tried defending them.The Auld Grump</blockquote>

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