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If the devils are how monsters will be....I am so happy
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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 4029606" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>None of which is possible when they're all dazed from being <em>blasphemed</em> every round. I repeat--SLAs like <em>blasphemy</em> aren't tactical, they're blunt instruments.</p><p></p><p>Although I stand corrected, it doesn't sound like a few saving throws followed by a lot of PC death. I forgot, <em>blasphemy</em> doesn't give a saving throw. That's a fun, tactical combat, right? It zaps you on the first round, you're all dazed and can't act, and it just keeps doing the same thing round after round while its pals dismember you. It has all the complexity and tension of a chess game... between Garry Kasparov and Forrest Gump.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, get some fire protection and you're just fine... oh, wait a minute. You've still got a bajillion minion devils to deal with. And you get to fight them while horribly debuffed from <em>point of terror</em>... and poisoned... and fear aura-ed... and the minion devils are all at +4. And every time you try to close with the fiend, he stings you, bashes you, and then teleports to the other side of the battlefield.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, no problem at all.</p><p></p><p>(Also, fire protection is probably a lot harder to come by in 4E. It may well be that saying "just get some protection from fire" in 4E will be like saying "just get some protection from weapon damage" in 3E--that is, a whole lot easier said than done.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 4029606, member: 58197"] None of which is possible when they're all dazed from being [i]blasphemed[/i] every round. I repeat--SLAs like [i]blasphemy[/i] aren't tactical, they're blunt instruments. Although I stand corrected, it doesn't sound like a few saving throws followed by a lot of PC death. I forgot, [i]blasphemy[/i] doesn't give a saving throw. That's a fun, tactical combat, right? It zaps you on the first round, you're all dazed and can't act, and it just keeps doing the same thing round after round while its pals dismember you. It has all the complexity and tension of a chess game... between Garry Kasparov and Forrest Gump. Sure, get some fire protection and you're just fine... oh, wait a minute. You've still got a bajillion minion devils to deal with. And you get to fight them while horribly debuffed from [i]point of terror[/i]... and poisoned... and fear aura-ed... and the minion devils are all at +4. And every time you try to close with the fiend, he stings you, bashes you, and then teleports to the other side of the battlefield. Yeah, no problem at all. (Also, fire protection is probably a lot harder to come by in 4E. It may well be that saying "just get some protection from fire" in 4E will be like saying "just get some protection from weapon damage" in 3E--that is, a whole lot easier said than done.) [/QUOTE]
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