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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 4085239" data-attributes="member: 1003">This.  The question was "Would I allow them", but I figure the answer "No" was closest to "The subject simply would never have come up."  My group sticks to what's in the PHB.That being said I may find a place for them easily enough, but I do expect that Eladrins and Elves will be perfectly interchangeable in 99% of circumstances. If you changed the PHB to one "elf" race with two build options "Wood Elf" or "Fey Elf", I bet no one would even notice, thematically.But I'm glad the Dragonborn and Eladrin are in and that Minotaurs are a PC-ready race in the MM. It sure makes my DL conversion like falling out of bed.Minotaurs : MinotaursHumans : HumansQualinesti/Sylvanesti : EladrinKagonesti : ElvesDwarves : DwarvesKender : Haflings (no rule changes needed!)Draconians : DragonbornIrda : ChangelingsWe'll have to see if the PC-ready Bugbear makes a good stand in for Ogres, but no one ever plays those anyway, so it's probably not an issue.And I'm thinking that all those humans who made dark pacts with Takhisis may be developing some horns ...</blockquote>