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If you don't like minions - how would you do it?
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<blockquote data-quote="robertliguori" data-source="post: 4387248" data-attributes="member: 47776"><p>1: Take the advancement paths for HP, defenses, attack bonus, and damage, and normalize them. (Re-enable 1/2 level as bonus damage from Saga, say.)</p><p></p><p>2: Enable trade-offs. Defenders can boost HP, Strikers attack bonus and damage, Controllers mostly damage, and the like.</p><p></p><p>3: Grow minions as glass cannons, with high attacks, moderate damage, moderate defenses, and pitiful HP. Let's say that the PCs are level 10, with balanced level 10 bonuses across their attributes. A suitable minion-type creature might be level 6, with attack 8, damage 6, defenses 7, and HP 3.</p><p></p><p>Orcish barbarians that take Reckless Rage at their level 1 feat and have maxed Str and low Dex and Con are the canonical 3.XE example of such a character.</p><p></p><p>4: Enable the HP-pool option for minions below a certain level threshold. Assume that attacks directed to the mass of minions always hit the most injured minion, so that if each minion has 6 hp, an attack that deals 20 points of damage slays 3 minions outright and enables a 4-hp attack to kill a fourth.</p><p></p><p>Minions, as they exist now, strip from the game a great deal of the sense of advancement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="robertliguori, post: 4387248, member: 47776"] 1: Take the advancement paths for HP, defenses, attack bonus, and damage, and normalize them. (Re-enable 1/2 level as bonus damage from Saga, say.) 2: Enable trade-offs. Defenders can boost HP, Strikers attack bonus and damage, Controllers mostly damage, and the like. 3: Grow minions as glass cannons, with high attacks, moderate damage, moderate defenses, and pitiful HP. Let's say that the PCs are level 10, with balanced level 10 bonuses across their attributes. A suitable minion-type creature might be level 6, with attack 8, damage 6, defenses 7, and HP 3. Orcish barbarians that take Reckless Rage at their level 1 feat and have maxed Str and low Dex and Con are the canonical 3.XE example of such a character. 4: Enable the HP-pool option for minions below a certain level threshold. Assume that attacks directed to the mass of minions always hit the most injured minion, so that if each minion has 6 hp, an attack that deals 20 points of damage slays 3 minions outright and enables a 4-hp attack to kill a fourth. Minions, as they exist now, strip from the game a great deal of the sense of advancement. [/QUOTE]
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