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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 3383439" data-attributes="member: 158">It does, but still doesn't necessarily contradict the other rule that says your bonus isn't added, if you take that the writer is probably thinking of only DEX bonuses here. Personally, I think that this particular clause is poorly worded, because designers have in the past been pretty clear what it applies to from a rules standpoint -- that bonus isn't counted in flat-footed, and penalty is. (I don't have references at the moment, so I don't expect you to take my word for it.) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />How many times have we seen poorly-worded rules because someone who is writing the generic copy is not using terminology sharply, or is thinking about a previous version of a game rule? (We just now have a thread floating around here about magmin doing "heat damage" instead of fire damage.") <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />From a common sense standpoint, AC 10, Dex 10 is the baseline of "John Doe" reacting to an attack. A Dex 12 guy flat-footed acts no faster than John Doe does to the same attack. The Dex 8 guy, however, is that much closer to just standing still, which is covered by the Armor class of something with a Dex of 0. At Dex 1, he's almost as bad as standing still. AC 10 is NOT standing still -- it's a modicum of being evasive.</blockquote>

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