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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3127930" data-attributes="member: 141">I'm a philosophy professor, and I prefer to say "raise the question" if a new line of inquiry is being opened up.  If I meant the original use, I'd probably tell them they are arguing in a circle.  The confusion with the phrase "beg the question" makes it almost unusable nowadays.  At least if you are trying to communicate ideas accurately.With the case of the adventuring party, what if the group played twice a week, but with different campaigns on Tuesday than they play on Saturday. Suppose John's character (one of the "Order of the Thunderbolt") dies near the end of the session on Saturday.  On Tuesday he has similarly rotten luck; his PC falls victim to a teleporter trap that sends him to a different prime material plane.  Rather than have John roll up a new character for both campaigns, the DM rules that the Tuesday character is introduced to the Saturday group, where he meets a whole new set of comrades (the "Sly Companions"), gets caught up on the backstory there, adopts a new set of campaign goals, etc.. Over the next several weeks a variety of accidents result in all the original PCs from the Tuesday group being transferred to the Saturday group.Which group can claim to be the Order of the Thunderbolt?  If the group in the Saturday campaign met the group from the Tuesday Campaign, couldn't the former say they are the "Real" Thunderbolts?  Does the Order of the Thunderbolt exist in two places at once, or did the Tuesday group stop being Thunderbolts at some time (perhaps when the majority of the membership transferred over?)That's one way of getting the Ship of Thebes thought experiment to work in terms of D&D adventuring groups.</blockquote>

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