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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2079461" data-attributes="member: 29014">Here's some 12th-level PCs from my first 3E game, the one I said is well under average: Alain of Browender, AKA Hiawatha, Lord of Ignorance:Items- None but mundane, Hiawatha has cast aside worldly possessions in favour of the pursuit of ignorance. He does have an Ignorance Ray special attack though. Taldiin, Arcanist of Enclave Durai: Items- Spellbook and a nearly-completed golem that he finished using a Golem Manual (although Galatea isn't really an item so much as a cohort, but you can count her as one if you wish and she is worth 500000 gold), clothes and other mundanes Galatea, Golem Eldritch Knight (NPC):Items- none, but she herself may count as an item if you wish (see Taldiin) Bilun, murdered cleric of Ilmater:Items- holy symbol, clerical robes, he died and nobody cared enough to bring him back to life Arysia, elven druid:Items- holly, mistletoe, armour and weapons, mundane stuff, nothing magical Lya, the wizard who sometimes pops out of existence:Items- spellbook, mundane items, special ability to wink out of existence for extended periods of time Foodle Noodlewise, gnomish noodle-chef and artificer:Items-Masterwork noodlemaking kit, 10 days of rations (noodles), free artificer items he gets from his prestige class (don't count against the base wealth since its a class ability to get free items, so I won't list those here), no other magic than what he got for free Aeoun, Pixie Wizard and prankster:Items-20,000 gold pieces of practical joke items (such as a Barrel of Monkeys that is full of infinite monkeys), spellbook, mundane items Varthyn, cleric of Kossuth:Items-holy symbol of Kossuth, mundane items, Cloak of Charisma +4 (16000 gold) Shane Greenbottle, "Demon Lord of the Abyss," Halfling Rogue:Items-+1 size small rapier (2000ish gold), Ring of Protection +2 (8000 gold), Cloak of Resistance +1 (1000 gold), Minor Obsidian Fortress on the 8397th layer of the Abyss (200000 gold) Arthyzarka, Succubus Ally of Shane Greenbottle (played as a PC rather than a cohort since succubi are ECL 12 by the time they take all their racial levels):Items-nothing except what Shane lends her, except the clothes she's wearing  So among 10 PCs, they have less than 880,000 gp (the expected baseline) even if you count Galatea and Shane's Obsidian Fortress as items. Oh, and my PCs think that anyone who buys a +3 sword when they can just use Greater Magic Weapon for free is being silly. They only buy magic weapons when they want some special property (such as Bane against Dragons), and if they ever receive magic weapons as treasure, they just sell them off for half-price.</blockquote>

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