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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 7013781" data-attributes="member: 5038"><p>I started with Holmes's Basic and quickly switched to AD&D. </p><p>I left AD&D 1e for Fantasy Hero and Rolemaster, but when I returned home from college, most of my friends only wanted to play D&D.</p><p>I returned to AD&D and was going to drop it, because I developed a strong dislike for the patchwork nature system and the cleric. However AD&D 2e came out and I liked Priests of specific mythoi, several of the settings, and a few of the Complete Handbooks. Plus, several players wanted to stick with AD&D 2e. Eventually, we had two players leave the group (one for marriage and move) and the replacement players were willing to try Rolemaster so we switched to RM for fantasy.</p><p></p><p>Third edition came out and fixed several issues I had with D&D. It now had unified ability score progression, unified core mechanics, the sorcerer, the skill system monsters had ability scores, and monster AC's were broken down and included natural armor and dex bonus. What sold me on 3e were several third party products and 3.5 Unearthed Arcana which allowed me to tailor the game even further.</p><p></p><p>Eventually, I stopped running 3e and started running a few Savage Worlds campaign followed by a multi-year superhero game using Mutants and Masterminds. As of yet, I still have not returned to D&D. I liked several things about 4e, but disliked the design of the barbarian, cleric, and sorcerer, the lack of a skill point system, and. more importantly, both Paragon and Epic tiers. I also disliked how the demon princes and several 1e MM 1 monsters were spread out over multiple sources. Realizing I had no interest in running or playing 2/3 of the levels (I already have 3e for that) , I passed (I still own a few books). </p><p>Fifth edition is in a similar position as 4th- there is a lot I like, but several things I don't. Among the things I dislike again are, again, the Barbarian, the cleric, and the sorcerer, the lack of an official skill point option, and a dislike the system starting beginning around level 10-12. In addition, i don't like the multiclassing rules for 5e (much like I disliked 3e's multiclassing). Again, I would need to house rule the system as much as 3e (just different spots) and, unlike 4e, there is a lot of third party support to make it easier. Currently, I am waiting to see what WOTC does with their big book of crunch.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 7013781, member: 5038"] I started with Holmes's Basic and quickly switched to AD&D. I left AD&D 1e for Fantasy Hero and Rolemaster, but when I returned home from college, most of my friends only wanted to play D&D. I returned to AD&D and was going to drop it, because I developed a strong dislike for the patchwork nature system and the cleric. However AD&D 2e came out and I liked Priests of specific mythoi, several of the settings, and a few of the Complete Handbooks. Plus, several players wanted to stick with AD&D 2e. Eventually, we had two players leave the group (one for marriage and move) and the replacement players were willing to try Rolemaster so we switched to RM for fantasy. Third edition came out and fixed several issues I had with D&D. It now had unified ability score progression, unified core mechanics, the sorcerer, the skill system monsters had ability scores, and monster AC's were broken down and included natural armor and dex bonus. What sold me on 3e were several third party products and 3.5 Unearthed Arcana which allowed me to tailor the game even further. Eventually, I stopped running 3e and started running a few Savage Worlds campaign followed by a multi-year superhero game using Mutants and Masterminds. As of yet, I still have not returned to D&D. I liked several things about 4e, but disliked the design of the barbarian, cleric, and sorcerer, the lack of a skill point system, and. more importantly, both Paragon and Epic tiers. I also disliked how the demon princes and several 1e MM 1 monsters were spread out over multiple sources. Realizing I had no interest in running or playing 2/3 of the levels (I already have 3e for that) , I passed (I still own a few books). Fifth edition is in a similar position as 4th- there is a lot I like, but several things I don't. Among the things I dislike again are, again, the Barbarian, the cleric, and the sorcerer, the lack of an official skill point option, and a dislike the system starting beginning around level 10-12. In addition, i don't like the multiclassing rules for 5e (much like I disliked 3e's multiclassing). Again, I would need to house rule the system as much as 3e (just different spots) and, unlike 4e, there is a lot of third party support to make it easier. Currently, I am waiting to see what WOTC does with their big book of crunch. [/QUOTE]
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