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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Beowolf" data-source="post: 3650559" data-attributes="member: 18770">just to shift some blame to where it is more acceptible and less personal or at least blames religion too much. i did an essay on this very subject of D&D discrimination, and i can say without a shadow of a doubt that what they came up with was absolutly crazy, let alone unfounded.just take that pushings woman with her badd group (love the irony of the cool b.a.d.d. guys thought up). they fabricated and cherrypicked constantly, but i have to say ultimately the blame for the anti-d&d craze is not nearly the sole responsibility of the religious community, far from it.first off, blame the media. if it weren't for sensationalists and alarmist tv shows and news none of the real crazies would have ever been heard. if it weren't for those lowlifes the likes of pushings would not have ever had a voice or be taken seriously. unfortunately our media is.. well a lot of really nasty words (be imaginative and make your own expletive  laden description)while the media is very responsible for helping the nuts get their crap out there, the next level of responsibility falls on all the non religious organizations that bought into the anti-d&d crap. from schools,libraries , to even police stations they all accepted the propaganda material and believed it. had these non religious organizations actually looked into anything themselves i am certain that the anti-D&d craze would have gone nowhere at all. at the very least kids would not have suffered because of it. ( and by suffer i am serious, it got to the point that players had "evidence" and drugs planted in efforts to prove their "guilt". really it was horrifying what was happening at the height of the craze)i think in the end it was thanks to the efforts of a courageous police officer who looked into the whole story and wrote some information to counter the ridiculous assertions made by the crazies that actually ended the anti-d&d craze at least for most part: they still had pushings on some shows with even more insane accusations, acutally the worst( or at least most unbelievable) of the so called deviltry leveled at D&D came from this end period, they had to make up more and more outlandish claims to get people to listen to them. thats where we get the brunt of the "they can actually cast spells and summon real demons" bs came from, prior to that it was more that they just tried to cite statistics related to suicide and murder out of context (not that those tactics were not anymore outlandish, considering they actually ended up showing that D&D players committed suicide  at rates below the national average) i still get a kick about how they believed that D&D players were casting spells and the like when pushings herself swore she had a telepathic premonition concerning her sons suicide, talk about hypocracy.i got all my info from around the net, do some searches and you can easily find some great articals and studies done, i found this one where rpgs were used to help treat a young person who had attempted to commit suicide, the therapist really liked how rpgs helped him with his therapy and treatment.and again it was never most or all churches that got on the bandwagon, i recall a great piece about a group of players at a school who were persecuted by a loony teacher who accused them of casting spells and curses ect. when one of the students was a son of a prominent local minister. oh and if any of you think things can get bad here, go over to shoutwire, there its a whole new ballgame of flaming and the like. really its everything the net has to offer, especially the worst kind, but you do get some decent debates and conversations now and then. i myself am quite politically minded and have gone from participating in some really great debates to bashing the topic's nazi/kkk/conspiracy theorists/utter nutjobs/ect posters. it lets you cut lose and say whatever,</blockquote>

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