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<blockquote data-quote="Erekose13" data-source="post: 4538641" data-attributes="member: 3387"><p>With the restructured skill challenge DCs 5=easy/10=moderate/15=hard, I don't think Skill challenges are weighted to fail at all. In fact with these changes I think they are almost too easy. I've yet to see one fail in pbp (granted I think I've only read about 5). The one I ran in my face to face group with the old numbers (7/14/21) failed but the PCs didnt work together at all and all tried untrained checks. When constructing a skill challenge a DM should be encouraged to allow an avenue for all characters to participate. So a social challenge should have at least one success be available for every character. Whether that character makes the roll in the end is different. </p><p></p><p>I am a big supporter of them, but do see the problems inherent in pulling people out of the roleplaying they are used to in these situations and forcing them to play it in order making skill checks all along. I think that difficulty is all the more evident in social skill challenges where before a character would be inclined to speak his mind and directly add to the conversation, those without the skills sit in the background and offer aid another points. I think the solution is somewhere between IG's ooc mechanic and people posting what they want to say with every skill check (including aid another). That way it might be possible for a DM to be more apparent when reward the success of all skill rolls including the small ones.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Erekose13, post: 4538641, member: 3387"] With the restructured skill challenge DCs 5=easy/10=moderate/15=hard, I don't think Skill challenges are weighted to fail at all. In fact with these changes I think they are almost too easy. I've yet to see one fail in pbp (granted I think I've only read about 5). The one I ran in my face to face group with the old numbers (7/14/21) failed but the PCs didnt work together at all and all tried untrained checks. When constructing a skill challenge a DM should be encouraged to allow an avenue for all characters to participate. So a social challenge should have at least one success be available for every character. Whether that character makes the roll in the end is different. I am a big supporter of them, but do see the problems inherent in pulling people out of the roleplaying they are used to in these situations and forcing them to play it in order making skill checks all along. I think that difficulty is all the more evident in social skill challenges where before a character would be inclined to speak his mind and directly add to the conversation, those without the skills sit in the background and offer aid another points. I think the solution is somewhere between IG's ooc mechanic and people posting what they want to say with every skill check (including aid another). That way it might be possible for a DM to be more apparent when reward the success of all skill rolls including the small ones. [/QUOTE]
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