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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fourthmensch" data-source="post: 1742763" data-attributes="member: 16723">  Ah, I stand corrected. It still seems a little weird to me that they did that with the half-illithids, but apparently I was wrong when I said every single save DC is base 10.        My approach would be to have the skill bonuses, nix the detect thoughts ability, make the mind blast base 10, and then give any illithid-touched character the option of selecting the following feats: Detect Thoughts     You can tap your illithid heritage in order to scan the surface thoughts of intelligent nearby creatures.     Prerequisite: Cerebrate     [font=&quot]Benefit: [font=&quot]The character gains the ability to use detect thoughts as a spell-like ability three times per day. The DC is Charisma based.[/font][/font]         [font=&quot]Extra Mind Blast[/font]     You have disciplined your mind so that you can use your mind blast ability more often.     Prerequisites: Cerebrate.     Benefit: You may use your mind blast ability two extra times per day.     Normal: You may use your mind blast ability twice per day.     [font=&quot]Special[/font]: You may select this feat more than once. Each time you select it, you may use your mind blast an additional two times per day.         [font=&quot]Improved Mind Blast[/font]     [font=&quot]You have trained yourself to focus your mental powers, making your mind blast more powerful.[/font]     [font=&quot]Prerequistes: Cerebrate. [/font]     [font=&quot]Benefit: Add +2 to the DC for your mind blast ability.[/font]         [font=&quot]Improved Ranged Mind Blast[/font]     [font=&quot]You have trained with illithid masters in order to project your mental attacks outward even further.[/font]     [font=&quot]Prerequisite: Cerebrate, Ranged Mind Blast.[/font]     [font=&quot]Benefit: Your mind blast affects all creatures in a 30-foot cone.[/font]     [font=&quot]Normal: Your mind blast affects all creatures in a 15-foot cone (as per Ranged Mind Blast). [/font]         [font=&quot]Improved Stunning Blast[/font]     [font=&quot]You have trained with illithid masters in order to prolong the effects of your mind blast.[/font]     [font=&quot]Prerequisite: Cerebrate, Stunning Blast.[/font]     [font=&quot]Benefit: Opponents affected by your mind blast ability are stunned for 2d4 rounds.[/font]     [font=&quot]Normal: Opponents affected by your mind blast ability are stunned for 1d4 rounds (as per Stunning Blast).[/font]         [font=&quot]Mind Blast Mastery[/font]     [font=&quot]You have mastered the art of focusing your mental powers to disable enemies.[/font]     [font=&quot]Prerequisites: Cerebrate, Improved Mind Blast[/font]     [font=&quot]Benefit: Add +2 to the DC for your mind blast ability. This bonus stacks with the bonus from Improved Mind Blast.[/font]         [font=&quot]Ranged Mind Blast[/font]     [font=&quot]You have trained with illithid masters in order to project your mental attacks outward.[/font]     [font=&quot]Prerquisite: Cerebrate.[/font]     [font=&quot]Benefit: Your mind blast affects all creatures in a 15-foot cone.[/font]     [font=&quot]Normal: Your mind blast affects only one creature.[/font]         [font=&quot]Ranged Mind Blast Mastery[/font]     [font=&quot]You have achieved such mastery of your mind blast that it affects nearly as many creatures of a true illithid.[/font]     [font=&quot]Prerequisites: Cerebrate, Improved Ranged Mind Blast, Ranged Mind Blast.[/font]     [font=&quot]Benefit: Your mind blast affects all creatures in a 45-foot cone.[/font]     [font=&quot]Normal: Your mind blast affects all creatures in a 30 ft-cone (as per Improved Ranged Mind Blast)[/font]         [font=&quot]Stunning Blast[/font]     [font=&quot]You have trained with illithid masters in order to improve your mental attack.[/font]     [font=&quot]Prerequisites: Cerebrate.[/font]     [font=&quot]Benefit: Opponents affected by your mind blast are stunned for 1d4 rounds.[/font]     [font=&quot]Normal: Opponents affected by your mind blast are dazed for 1 round.[/font]         [font=&quot]Stunning Blast Mastery[/font]     [font=&quot]You have trained with illithid masters in order to fully overload the mental defenses of your opponents.[/font]     Prerequsities: Cerebrate, Improved Stunning Blast, Stunning Blast.     Benefit: Opponents affected by your mind blast are stunned for 3d4 rounds.     Normal: Opponents affected by your mind blast are stunned for 2d4 rounds (as per Improved Stunning Blast).    Now, that's a lot of feats, I know. No cerebrate would even be able to take them all; this just allows different characters to customize their abilities based on their priorities. With this set of feats, it is possible for any character to make one aspect of their mind blast nearly as powerful as that of a true illithid's--DC, range, duration, or frequency of use--but it would still be impossible for any one cerebrate to compete with a true mind flayer's mind blast.       No problem! I'm just glad that other people are actually interested in this--it gives me some people to bounce my ideas off of, and hopefully to tell me when I'm starting to sound crazy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />.  </blockquote>

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