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<blockquote data-quote="dcollins" data-source="post: 1819022" data-attributes="member: 876"><p>From the SRD:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The main question that the DM needs to adjudicate is "does a Spellcraft check count as 'incontrovertible proof'?". Could go yes or no -- personally I think I'd choose "no" for balance reasons, but give a +4 bonus to the save. (Under the thinking that illusionists' powers are designed to trick other wizards as much as anybody else.)</p><p></p><p>Clearly if someone does save and communicates that to someone else, it gives a +4 bonus on that person's save.</p><p></p><p>Free actions like speaking must still wait until the character's turn to act -- no shouting out in the middle of someone else's attack for this purpose. </p><p></p><p>In my game, we also rule that Spellcraft checks must wait until your turn for you to roll them. No effective difference (see above), but it keeps the turn order solid and prevents interruption by all the casters crying for a Spellcraft check when any magic goes off. YMMV on that part.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dcollins, post: 1819022, member: 876"] From the SRD: The main question that the DM needs to adjudicate is "does a Spellcraft check count as 'incontrovertible proof'?". Could go yes or no -- personally I think I'd choose "no" for balance reasons, but give a +4 bonus to the save. (Under the thinking that illusionists' powers are designed to trick other wizards as much as anybody else.) Clearly if someone does save and communicates that to someone else, it gives a +4 bonus on that person's save. Free actions like speaking must still wait until the character's turn to act -- no shouting out in the middle of someone else's attack for this purpose. In my game, we also rule that Spellcraft checks must wait until your turn for you to roll them. No effective difference (see above), but it keeps the turn order solid and prevents interruption by all the casters crying for a Spellcraft check when any magic goes off. YMMV on that part. [/QUOTE]
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