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Illusionary floor pit trap, what's the saving throw?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mordane76" data-source="post: 1986611" data-attributes="member: 7172"><p>As a continuation - with proper set up, if this spell were used on a suspension-style bridge to make a false plank, and the plank following the "pit" were specifically weakened, you could make it nearly impossible to make the Climb check by simply weakening the board in question so that it couldn't hold more than maybe 50-100 lbs, because even if they did manage to grab the board on their way down, it would snap under their weight. There are plenty of ways to skew this scenario in your favor... make the "bridge" out of ice (so it's always slippery), or make sure to keep it slick with dripping water. However, the water might allow someone to see through the illusion, as it would interact with the illusion in such a way that someone could notice water flowing 'through' the bridge.</p><p></p><p>The easiest way, IMO, to overcome this scenario is a bag of sand, dirt, or some similar small, grainy material, but that would require that someone was somehow aware that a section of the bridge would be missing. If you knew to be careful for such a trap, while you couldn't see through the illusion initially, tossing out sand would indicate what part of the bridge isn't really there. This could be a good idea for the caster himself or his trusted minions, so that they don't forget the placement of the trap.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mordane76, post: 1986611, member: 7172"] As a continuation - with proper set up, if this spell were used on a suspension-style bridge to make a false plank, and the plank following the "pit" were specifically weakened, you could make it nearly impossible to make the Climb check by simply weakening the board in question so that it couldn't hold more than maybe 50-100 lbs, because even if they did manage to grab the board on their way down, it would snap under their weight. There are plenty of ways to skew this scenario in your favor... make the "bridge" out of ice (so it's always slippery), or make sure to keep it slick with dripping water. However, the water might allow someone to see through the illusion, as it would interact with the illusion in such a way that someone could notice water flowing 'through' the bridge. The easiest way, IMO, to overcome this scenario is a bag of sand, dirt, or some similar small, grainy material, but that would require that someone was somehow aware that a section of the bridge would be missing. If you knew to be careful for such a trap, while you couldn't see through the illusion initially, tossing out sand would indicate what part of the bridge isn't really there. This could be a good idea for the caster himself or his trusted minions, so that they don't forget the placement of the trap. [/QUOTE]
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