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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7920451" data-attributes="member: 177">I think in this you are... rather exceedingly incorrect here.&nbsp; This is like saying that a screwdriver is the act of prying open a can of paint!Rule Zero, and the Golden Rule are tools for the GM.&nbsp; One possible use of that tool is GM Force as you define it above.&nbsp; But, there are a bunch of other uses for the tool which are NOT GM Force.&nbsp; .Say one of my players comes up with a character build that is abusive.&nbsp; As GM, I may nerf a feat used in the build to keep the PC power balance appropriate.&nbsp; This is a use of Rule Zero that is not aimed at any particular pre-ordained goal, and so is not GM Force.Meanwhile, there are techniques a GM can use to force a given storyline or sequence of events in game that do not require adjustments of the rules, such that Rule Zero or the Golden Rule do not apply. Thus, I think GM Force and Rule Zero are orthogonal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7920451, member: 177"] I think in this you are... rather exceedingly incorrect here. This is like saying that a screwdriver is the act of prying open a can of paint! Rule Zero, and the Golden Rule are tools for the GM. One possible use of that tool is GM Force as you define it above. But, there are a bunch of other uses for the tool which are [I]NOT[/I] GM Force. . Say one of my players comes up with a character build that is abusive. As GM, I may nerf a feat used in the build to keep the PC power balance appropriate. This is a use of Rule Zero that is not aimed at any particular pre-ordained goal, and so is not GM Force. Meanwhile, there are techniques a GM can use to force a given storyline or sequence of events in game that do not require adjustments of the rules, such that Rule Zero or the Golden Rule do not apply. Thus, I think GM Force and Rule Zero are orthogonal. [/QUOTE]

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