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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7920600" data-attributes="member: 177">With respect, this is deviating from the OP's definition of force.&nbsp; The OP defines force clearly in the context of forcing a particular narrative goal, as in a &quot;choreographed novel&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; To be honest, we already have a term for what's being discussed in the OP - &quot;Railroading&quot;.I will not engage with your expanded definition.&nbsp; As I have noted elsewhere - arguments over the definition of terms are generally proxy arguments for some more basic issue.&nbsp; If you want to discuss that more basic issue, we can do that.&nbsp; And, I think here we may see the more fundamental issue that's stuck in your craw.You are talking about determining the success of individual actions and changing results during play.&nbsp; I was not.&nbsp; I was generally talking about editing the rules -&nbsp; I specifically noted making a change for sake of overall game balance, not for a particular result of the moment.&nbsp; You have gone off to dealing with specific outcomes.&nbsp; I am sorry to say, you have stood up a strawman.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7920600, member: 177"] With respect, this is deviating from the OP's definition of force. The OP defines force clearly in the context of forcing a particular [I]narrative[/I] goal, as in a "choreographed novel". To be honest, we already have a term for what's being discussed in the OP - "Railroading". I will not engage with your expanded definition. As I have noted elsewhere - arguments over the definition of terms are generally proxy arguments for some more basic issue. If you want to discuss that more basic issue, we can do that. And, I think here we may see the more fundamental issue that's stuck in your craw. You are talking about determining the success of individual actions and changing results during play. I was not. I was generally talking about editing the rules - I [I]specifically[/I] noted making a change for sake of overall game balance, not for a particular result of the moment. You have gone off to dealing with specific outcomes. I am sorry to say, you have stood up a strawman. [/QUOTE]

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