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"Illusionism" and "GM force" in RPGing
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<blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 7924038" data-attributes="member: 6688277"><p>In this example, as DM, I could see myself just as easily give away the IBF without a need for a roll if we are talking about a rescue, a ranger and proficiency with the AH skill. That is a clear success to me - if anything I might only use the AH check to determine the degree of trust/bond that may now start existing between the ranger and the animal.</p><p></p><p>Interestingly, I think it was [USER=48965]@Imaro[/USER] or [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER], I forget which, who some time back on one of these types of threads suggested the same thing you're suggesting, that setting a DC is essentially playing to the GM's bias and thus many if not all games have this GM force however much it is*. He was somewhat contested on this (because mechanics were used) and now here you are saying the same thing, but no one has raised issue with it. I bring this up not as to make some sort of jab at you or anyone else, only that I feel we (me inclusive) need to be a little more considerate of everyone's views and not immediately dismissive because the <em>other</em> side mentioned it. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Otherwise great example!</p><p></p><p>* [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER] upthread mentioned that (to him) the degree of GM force <em>matters little or is irrelevant</em> (paraphrasing somewhat) only in that it exists.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sadras, post: 7924038, member: 6688277"] In this example, as DM, I could see myself just as easily give away the IBF without a need for a roll if we are talking about a rescue, a ranger and proficiency with the AH skill. That is a clear success to me - if anything I might only use the AH check to determine the degree of trust/bond that may now start existing between the ranger and the animal. Interestingly, I think it was [USER=48965]@Imaro[/USER] or [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER], I forget which, who some time back on one of these types of threads suggested the same thing you're suggesting, that setting a DC is essentially playing to the GM's bias and thus many if not all games have this GM force however much it is*. He was somewhat contested on this (because mechanics were used) and now here you are saying the same thing, but no one has raised issue with it. I bring this up not as to make some sort of jab at you or anyone else, only that I feel we (me inclusive) need to be a little more considerate of everyone's views and not immediately dismissive because the [I]other[/I] side mentioned it. ;) Otherwise great example! * [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER] upthread mentioned that (to him) the degree of GM force [I]matters little or is irrelevant[/I] (paraphrasing somewhat) only in that it exists. [/QUOTE]
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