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Message: <blockquote data-quote="77IM" data-source="post: 6940925" data-attributes="member: 12377">I think there's three different, but related, issues under discussion here:1) Illusion spells: They're totally fine; they do what they're supposed to, and a creative player with a reasonable DM can have a lot of fun with them.2) Playing a wizard who has ONLY illusion spells, or predominantly illusion spells: This sucks, don't do this. Sorry, but in 5e, spell balance is very damage-oriented, and they nerfed all non-damage spells. This was deliberate, to prevent stun-lock builds. The goal is for non-damaging spells to be better in special situations, and damaging spells to be better in the general case. So feel free to pick up a lot of illusion spells, but grab a couple of reliable damage-dealers too.3) Illusion tradition (wizard subclass): It seems weaker than most other wizard subclasses. Honestly, I'd sooner pick a Conjuration or Enchantment tradition, and those two are also on the weak end. For me, the biggest problem is that the level 2 ability is lame. Minor illusion creates an illusion of an object so adding sound to it is useless. If they reduced casting time to a bonus action, or allowed multiple minor illusions to run at once, or something, that might be interesting. Or, maybe, Truesight 30 ft., that would be pretty cool, and fitting with the concept. Hell, SOMETHING other than "a free cantrip" would be good here.Now, I'm not saying Illusion subclass is gimped or unplayable, or that you can't have fun playing Illusionist wizard. Just that it seems mechanically less useful than most other wizard traditions.</blockquote>

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