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Illusionist Wizards - What about all the monsters that are immune?
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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 4766308" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>Except you aren't applying everything in the spell description, only the one part marked as psychic (the damage) is applied, the <em>effect</em> and conditions that are riders are ignored. So it turns any lasting illusary effect into a single psychic attack that is otherwise shrugged off.</p><p> </p><p>In general, immunity to effect type keywords are much more common than damage type keywords (in part because you can't be resistant to effect type keywords). A <em>lot</em> of creatures are immune to fear. Does this mean that, for example, a dedicated starpact warlock (perhaps a tiefling) is unable to do any damage with his, for example, Dread Star daily? The description is one where it deals radiant damage, immobilizes a foe and imposes a penalty to will. While being immobilized with fear, and have your will shaken by fear make sense ... it's harder to argue that you've suffered radiant damage ... out of fear.</p><p> </p><p>It comes down to interpretation (see the immunity thread that came up earlier) but there are damage type keywords and effect type keywords, and illusion (like fear) is an effect type keyword, not a damage type. And while they don't mark every effect, they do mark damage type nearly all the time, so psychic damage would be keyworded to the psychic damage type.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 4766308, member: 63763"] Except you aren't applying everything in the spell description, only the one part marked as psychic (the damage) is applied, the [i]effect[/i] and conditions that are riders are ignored. So it turns any lasting illusary effect into a single psychic attack that is otherwise shrugged off. In general, immunity to effect type keywords are much more common than damage type keywords (in part because you can't be resistant to effect type keywords). A [i]lot[/i] of creatures are immune to fear. Does this mean that, for example, a dedicated starpact warlock (perhaps a tiefling) is unable to do any damage with his, for example, Dread Star daily? The description is one where it deals radiant damage, immobilizes a foe and imposes a penalty to will. While being immobilized with fear, and have your will shaken by fear make sense ... it's harder to argue that you've suffered radiant damage ... out of fear. It comes down to interpretation (see the immunity thread that came up earlier) but there are damage type keywords and effect type keywords, and illusion (like fear) is an effect type keyword, not a damage type. And while they don't mark every effect, they do mark damage type nearly all the time, so psychic damage would be keyworded to the psychic damage type. [/QUOTE]
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