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<blockquote data-quote="Damuri" data-source="post: 8115884" data-attributes="member: 7024799">I am almost positive that an actual moving object as opposed to an object that has a small predictable moving element are different.Frankly most DMs I know do not allow ANY sort of movement.Jeremy Crawford's line for movement is somewhere between &quot;hands of a clock&quot; (good) to a &quot;fountain of water&quot; (bad).Most of the best uses of improved minor illusion are situational.Some uses:I create a statue archer at one end of my range, far enough away that a perception check is not necessary) and the sound of a passing arrow right next to the ear of someone with a ranged attack, preferably a caster. This will frequently draw an attack from someone.You are being chased by more monsters than you can handle, you come to a fork in the dungeon while being pursued, create the illusion of a rock face camoflauging one tunnel and the sound of footsteps going down the other tunnel. Your pursuers follow the sound of scurrying footsteps down the other tunnel and you beat a hasty retreat.Enemy enchanter has your barbarian under hypnotic gaze. Put a bag over his head and create a loud ringing sound so he can no longer see nor hear the enchanter. Dismiss itAnother good way to use improved minor illusion is to split the minor illusion into two elements.I use the visual component the way I normally would with minor illusion to create obscuration and use the sound component somewhere else to try and distract an an enemy.I sometimes steal stuff with it.&nbsp;&nbsp; I create an image of what i will be stealing right over the object and then create a sound to distract the owner while I pilfer it.I like having kids play ilussionists and i use the following home brew rule for them.My homebrew rule for minor illusion is that illusionists can cast the regular version as a bonus action or the &quot;improved&quot; version as a regular action. This gets them casting an illusion almost every round. Without this, they don't really get much more out of minor illusion than anyone else that can cast minor illusion, the &quot;improvement&quot; doesn't really do enough to increase the use of the cantrip by a whole lot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Damuri, post: 8115884, member: 7024799"] I am almost positive that an actual moving object as opposed to an object that has a small predictable moving element are different. Frankly most DMs I know do not allow ANY sort of movement. Jeremy Crawford's line for movement is somewhere between "hands of a clock" (good) to a "fountain of water" (bad). Most of the best uses of improved minor illusion are situational. Some uses: I create a statue archer at one end of my range, far enough away that a perception check is not necessary) and the sound of a passing arrow right next to the ear of someone with a ranged attack, preferably a caster. This will frequently draw an attack from someone. You are being chased by more monsters than you can handle, you come to a fork in the dungeon while being pursued, create the illusion of a rock face camoflauging one tunnel and the sound of footsteps going down the other tunnel. Your pursuers follow the sound of scurrying footsteps down the other tunnel and you beat a hasty retreat. Enemy enchanter has your barbarian under hypnotic gaze. Put a bag over his head and create a loud ringing sound so he can no longer see nor hear the enchanter. Dismiss it Another good way to use improved minor illusion is to split the minor illusion into two elements. I use the visual component the way I normally would with minor illusion to create obscuration and use the sound component somewhere else to try and distract an an enemy. I sometimes steal stuff with it. I create an image of what i will be stealing right over the object and then create a sound to distract the owner while I pilfer it. I like having kids play ilussionists and i use the following home brew rule for them. My homebrew rule for minor illusion is that illusionists can cast the regular version as a bonus action or the "improved" version as a regular action. This gets them casting an illusion almost every round. Without this, they don't really get much more out of minor illusion than anyone else that can cast minor illusion, the "improvement" doesn't really do enough to increase the use of the cantrip by a whole lot. [/QUOTE]

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