Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5967165" data-attributes="member: 6669384">His selective highlight and lowlight of text tells us the priority in his reading.&quot;As visualized by you&quot;, in his argument, trumps the other stated limits.&nbsp; It's not a valid read of the rules.&nbsp; You can't just take the half of a sentence that you like and ignore the rest.Want to visualize a cottage?&nbsp; Go for it.&nbsp; Want to fill it with rustic knick-nacks?&nbsp; Sorry, that exceeds the limit of any Illusion that includes the phrase &quot;object, creature or force&quot;. It's multiple objects.Does that mean that you don't get everything you want?&nbsp; Yes, it does.&nbsp; Rules tend to do that.You can have an illusion of anything you want, anything you can visualize, so long as it fits in the spell volume, and meets the descriptive &quot;object, creature or force&quot;.&nbsp; But you can't ignore the &quot;object, creature or force&quot; limitation any more than you can ignore the volume or range limits, no matter what you want to visualize.Want to visualize a treasure pile?&nbsp; Millions of coins?&nbsp; Personally, I'd allow it, so long as its treated as a single mass.&nbsp; Want a few stray coins scattered around, for realism?&nbsp; Sorry, at that point you're stretching the DM's indulgence.&nbsp; You are unquestionably exceeding the specific limits of the spell.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5967165, member: 6669384"] His selective highlight and lowlight of text tells us the priority in his reading. "As visualized by you", in his argument, trumps the other stated limits. It's not a valid read of the rules. You can't just take the half of a sentence that you like and ignore the rest. Want to visualize a cottage? Go for it. Want to fill it with rustic knick-nacks? Sorry, that exceeds the limit of any Illusion that includes the phrase "object, creature or force". It's multiple objects. Does that mean that you don't get everything you want? Yes, it does. Rules tend to do that. You can have an illusion of anything you want, anything you can visualize, so long as it fits in the spell volume, and meets the descriptive "object, creature or force". But you can't ignore the "object, creature or force" limitation any more than you can ignore the volume or range limits, no matter what you want to visualize. Want to visualize a treasure pile? Millions of coins? Personally, I'd allow it, so long as its treated as a single mass. Want a few stray coins scattered around, for realism? Sorry, at that point you're stretching the DM's indulgence. You are unquestionably exceeding the specific limits of the spell. [/QUOTE]

Verification