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<blockquote data-quote="Gundark" data-source="post: 3050921" data-attributes="member: 6148">Well I'll give the details. The first mind blast stunned half the group for 10 rounds (3d4), the next mind blast stunned the rest of the group for 9 rounds. Assuming that the MF was sucessful in his grapples he could kill about 2-3&nbsp; ( it takes normally takes about 3 rounds for the mind flayer to eat a brain). This was a 4 man party. The mind flayer in question had quite a high grapple check. I would have gone after the Dragon Shaman first then the Scout. That would have left the bard and wizard remaining. Given the wizard and bard would have been unable to affect the MF with spells (SR of 32), and that the MF could draw upon a large number of spells and mind blast again it would have been over pretty quick. Now as I said in a earlier post I explained this to the party after the 3rd round (they were all stunned) and gave them the option of reseting the fight which they took. While I go &quot;all out&quot; with the BBEG my goal isn't to kill the party but to provide a challenge to them (which IMHO doesn't happen unless I go all out). So the party conceded and started over after round 3 which I know technically isn't a tpk (my apologies, it wasn't my intention to decieve) but it would have been that way as it was the direction it was going.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gundark, post: 3050921, member: 6148"] Well I'll give the details. The first mind blast stunned half the group for 10 rounds (3d4), the next mind blast stunned the rest of the group for 9 rounds. Assuming that the MF was sucessful in his grapples he could kill about 2-3 ( it takes normally takes about 3 rounds for the mind flayer to eat a brain). This was a 4 man party. The mind flayer in question had quite a high grapple check. I would have gone after the Dragon Shaman first then the Scout. That would have left the bard and wizard remaining. Given the wizard and bard would have been unable to affect the MF with spells (SR of 32), and that the MF could draw upon a large number of spells and mind blast again it would have been over pretty quick. Now as I said in a earlier post I explained this to the party after the 3rd round (they were all stunned) and gave them the option of reseting the fight which they took. While I go "all out" with the BBEG my goal isn't to kill the party but to provide a challenge to them (which IMHO doesn't happen unless I go all out). So the party conceded and started over after round 3 which I know technically isn't a tpk (my apologies, it wasn't my intention to decieve) but it would have been that way as it was the direction it was going. [/QUOTE]

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