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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 3051177" data-attributes="member: 9037">Please point out where in the players handbook it says that players have to have a chance to die to be playing DnD? I refer you to the old rule of 0 you know the one that the rules are guidelines and the palyers and DM can change them to fit their game style.I could just as easily use the argument that if you don't allow elves in your game you are not really playing DnD because they are in the players handbook.Their are other consquences than dying for example I played a game where if -11 you ended up in front of your diety and were sent back. You lost a level but you automatically came back. It made sense for the game we were in. Pawns of the gods at war.Long before Eberron and it's action points I had a DM introduce Karma points like in Shadowrun. You started with one and you earned them for different things. You could use these to cheat death.I have read several threads on DMs who have taken out any chance of raise dead in their game dead is dead. I would not play in that kind of game but I wouldn't tell them that they need to be honest and admit that they are not playing DnD.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 3051177, member: 9037"] Please point out where in the players handbook it says that players have to have a chance to die to be playing DnD? I refer you to the old rule of 0 you know the one that the rules are guidelines and the palyers and DM can change them to fit their game style. I could just as easily use the argument that if you don't allow elves in your game you are not really playing DnD because they are in the players handbook. Their are other consquences than dying for example I played a game where if -11 you ended up in front of your diety and were sent back. You lost a level but you automatically came back. It made sense for the game we were in. Pawns of the gods at war. Long before Eberron and it's action points I had a DM introduce Karma points like in Shadowrun. You started with one and you earned them for different things. You could use these to cheat death. I have read several threads on DMs who have taken out any chance of raise dead in their game dead is dead. I would not play in that kind of game but I wouldn't tell them that they need to be honest and admit that they are not playing DnD. [/QUOTE]

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