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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 9745718" data-attributes="member: 15700">Doesn't quite work like that. By the time you reach level 9 fighter (250,001 XP), you're already level 10 bard if you went F5/T5, then bard. From F5 to F6 is 17,000 XP, so in that one level up, if you went thief from F5, you'd hit T5 with 17,000 XP. At which point you go right to Bard. Bard 1 is 0 extra hp, with 1d6 thereafter. When you hit 250,001 total XP,  you're a F9 and Bard 10.So yes, the bard can have a lot more HP after level 6 because you've got essentially 19 hit die your rolling compared to 6.   But it should be noted that the below does not factor in any Con bonus at all. Because the Bard requires a 15 in STR, DEX, and CHA, you're not going to have a Con bonus, odds wise. The fighter could put their highest or second highest stat in CON when you can't do that with the bard.[ATTACH=full]416101[/ATTACH]So let's look at it again with a Con bonus for a fighter (if you have a 17 Con or higher, the fighter gets +3 or more all the way to level 9, while the bard only gets it to level F5, then it becomes +2 max, so the numbers would be even closer.)With a +2 CON bonus, the fighter catches back up at higher levels[ATTACH=full]416102[/ATTACH]With an 18 CON:[ATTACH=full]416103[/ATTACH]</blockquote>