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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 2233783" data-attributes="member: 5171"><p>Sounds like you've got a decent idea about the story you're trying to tell. Right now, this sounds like your basic normal fantasy novel, at least before you get to the poke-fun-at-cliches part. That's not a slam -- I like basic normal fantasy novels. But "make the reader identify with the character" doesn't differentiate it much from, say, a thriller, or a romance novel, even. I'm still not sure what your voice is, based on the description -- and it doesn't have to be anywhere but on the page, really, but it's a fair amount easier to figure out how to write what you want to write when you know what it is that you're writing.</p><p></p><p>One bit of caution on the poke-fun-at-cliches bit: Fantasy, Romance, and Mystery genres pretty much earn their keep based on doing the same thing they've been doing for years, and people like that about those genres -- which is why those genres are still around. (Science Fiction is more about "new ideas", at least until you get into specific sub-genres, and I don't know enough about Thrillers to know if the plot is always the same or if it's supposed to be different.) I guess where I'm going with this is to say to watch out about poking fun at cliches. If you poke fun at the cliches, you have to be completely certain that you're writing something original and strong enough that nobody can look at the points you <strong>didn't</strong> make fun of and say, "Hey, this guy is pretending to be too clever for cliches, but he's using one right there!" </p><p></p><p>(It's like watching a movie where the opening involves a deliberately bad CG monster that turns out to be a special effect in a movie being made in the movie -- and then, later in the movie, <strong>real</strong> monsters appear. The real monsters have to look a whole heckuva lot better than the fake monster they were making fun of, and if there's a single awkward leg movement or bad texture, fans are going to say, "So they can make fun of other movies for having bad effects, but they can't actually do it any better themselves.")</p><p></p><p>Anyway, good luck. Send out feelers when it's done, and I'd be happy to take a look.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takyris, post: 2233783, member: 5171"] Sounds like you've got a decent idea about the story you're trying to tell. Right now, this sounds like your basic normal fantasy novel, at least before you get to the poke-fun-at-cliches part. That's not a slam -- I like basic normal fantasy novels. But "make the reader identify with the character" doesn't differentiate it much from, say, a thriller, or a romance novel, even. I'm still not sure what your voice is, based on the description -- and it doesn't have to be anywhere but on the page, really, but it's a fair amount easier to figure out how to write what you want to write when you know what it is that you're writing. One bit of caution on the poke-fun-at-cliches bit: Fantasy, Romance, and Mystery genres pretty much earn their keep based on doing the same thing they've been doing for years, and people like that about those genres -- which is why those genres are still around. (Science Fiction is more about "new ideas", at least until you get into specific sub-genres, and I don't know enough about Thrillers to know if the plot is always the same or if it's supposed to be different.) I guess where I'm going with this is to say to watch out about poking fun at cliches. If you poke fun at the cliches, you have to be completely certain that you're writing something original and strong enough that nobody can look at the points you [b]didn't[/b] make fun of and say, "Hey, this guy is pretending to be too clever for cliches, but he's using one right there!" (It's like watching a movie where the opening involves a deliberately bad CG monster that turns out to be a special effect in a movie being made in the movie -- and then, later in the movie, [b]real[/b] monsters appear. The real monsters have to look a whole heckuva lot better than the fake monster they were making fun of, and if there's a single awkward leg movement or bad texture, fans are going to say, "So they can make fun of other movies for having bad effects, but they can't actually do it any better themselves.") Anyway, good luck. Send out feelers when it's done, and I'd be happy to take a look. [/QUOTE]
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