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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ConcreteBuddha" data-source="post: 490819" data-attributes="member: 3139">Yeah, I know. I guess I'm a fan of heroic fantasy. I can't see Conan or Arthur being overshadowed by some random archer. I like the idea of dueling melees. (No wonder I don't like Real-World time period RPGs.)... I was thinking of a house rule where GMW only effected one arrow. Also, instead of the DMG prices for magic arrows being for stacks of 50, I'd make them for stacks of 500.(We already have a house-rule that the total market price modifier for special abilities on magic weapons cannot exceed the weapon's enhancement bonus. In other words: No GMWed Keen Vorpal Rapiers +1. This cut down on GMW twinkage dramatically, since before this rule, players never bought enhancement bonuses on weapons above +1 due to GMW.)... Not from experience. I don't want to get into a full-blown debate on this point, but SR, energy resistances and just plain old good saving throws are quite common on most monsters. Besides, a cleric with a bow is ten times better than a cleric without a bow. But as always, it depends on the circumstances of the encounter.... AC (unless absurdly twinked) is worthless at mid to high levels. I don't think replacing one of the archers with a tank would help. It seems like the DM was overcompensating for the PCs ability to easily defeat encounters of appropriate EL.Eh...really, the problem is getting that full attack. The melee character has to jump through zillions of hoops to get that full attack, whereas the archer is full-attacking from the get go, plus they automatically get an extra attack from L1.When we were L2, and the archers were Rapid Shotting everything in sight, four CR 1/2 orcs was a joke.It totally depends on encounter distance, but from experience (and glancing at the DMG pg. 60), starting encounter distance is pretty far away. Light forest is 105 ft., grassland is 420 ft. and dungeons are LOS (which is generally really far for ambient light, not so far in total darkness with torches.)Anyway, in order for the melee guys to whip out their damage, they need to be in total darkness with a horrible LOS and start off right next to the monsters. That kinda blows. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Melee characters get chewed up in melee, too. My lizardfolk with an AC of 27 gets hit regularly by CR 7 creatures. The TWF is even worse off. And that's not even including Improved Grab creatures. ...Used it. Doesn't work. Casters don't get LOS through magical walls. Same with Wall of Force. IMHO, Obscuring Mist is a better alternative (and lower level). Or even Blindness, which doesn't effect your minions/superiors. Slow is a good one, too.</blockquote>

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