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Message: <blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 490954" data-attributes="member: 1210">Not exactly- but I think it's good to have options.  For instance, if you fight something that is horrendously mobile you may never get into melee.  There's nothing wrong with having options; soften the enemy up first and then mince them when you're close enough.  I doubt whether you'd ever find an archer who doesn't have a melee weapon in reserve; think of it as the converse- you have a missile weapon in reserve.I agree that archers are outragous in 3e; the first group I ran in 3e had an archer-type human fighter who cleaned up a lot of the fights early on.  I definitely sympathize.  But if they don't actually have the magic arrows, it only takes one dispel magic to nerf those 50 GMW arrows and one high-DR creature to make them sweat.  (Demons, devils, other spell-like ability toting things...)The thing is, it isn't just archers who are outrageous: it's everyone.  Who gets to shine really varies from group to group, and as a dm one thing I try hard to do is to make sure that everyone gets their chance- even the classes and races not in the party.  "Boy, I wish we had a druid right about now!"  I try to do the same thing with skills and feats too- "Crap, here's where I really wish I'd taken Blindfighting" and "Who has a decent diplomacy score??"If you ever need to take someone alive, the melee types are much better at it (heck, that's where monks shine).  If you need to take out a wand or a magic weapon that is tearing the group up you generally need a melee type.  It's all situational.And, of course, situations depend on the dm.I had to do a lot of adjusting when 3e came out.  Things are different and require a different type of dm juggling act to make everyone shine.  So while I sympathize with your position, I still think you can make an equal argument that the melee types are overpowered, or spellcasters, or clerics, or whoever- it just depends on the game and the types of encounters you have come up.</blockquote>

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