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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Petrosian" data-source="post: 508523" data-attributes="member: 1149">Actually he did figure in the GMW on the greatsword. The reason the fighter did not get a second is it does him no good. Thats one of the points being highlighted... that GMW stacks for archers and does not for melee.If you want to run comparisons assuming each character gets an identical set of buffs, that is an interesting idea but in as much as it is not what happens in play, it is fairly useless.i have NEVER seen a mage decide on buffing by dint of "how many levels have i thrown on so and so versus this other guy. They throw the best spells they can and as many as they can afford. its not a case of "do you get GMW or bull strength" its a case of how many can i spare and bull strength is not competing with GMW.IN PLAY, in my game here is what happens.The night before, when they are ready for bed, the 12th level sor with extend hands out a number of GMWx (24 hours) and uses his last couple GMW-X on arrows. they then divide the arrows up, most going to the archer. Every fighter type gets one weapon GMWed and they divy up about 100 arrows. i think this burns 6 4th level spells and since he has something like 8 fourth, 6 fifth and 3 sixth this is not really a hardship. The spell slots will be recovered by morning so the loss of spells only really is felt for about a 9 hour period.He also burns a number of second level buffs... endurance is his spell of choice, iirc, as extended versions as well. The fighter is already in gauntlets +4 for strength so a buff of bs would not help (much, if at all.)So while for a theoreticcal comparison, mathcing up spell levels of buffing would be interesting, it does not match the way things go in the game. there is no mechanism active in the game to force this parity and the system encourages doubling up on the archer because of the stacking issue.IF the rules were changed to allow a melee weapon to get two stacking GMWs, then the comparison should include one or two GMW for each, because thats what they would be going for. i think, overall, this is one of the reasons so many have seemed amenable to changing bow and arrow stacking</blockquote>

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