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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zad" data-source="post: 513826" data-attributes="member: 90">It's still an asset. Nobody said it had to be an asset to the individual character. If the party as a whole does more damage because the rogue can sneak attack, then I call that a benefit.It still adds to the damage total for the melee fighter. Furthermore, yes the archer can take full attacks from the start of combat, but will probably want to be within 30 feet which means moving. If they're not, their damage drops 3 points per arrow and they loose accuracy as well.The entire analysis is figured out with rapid shot included. Archers generally do less damage per shot but get the extra shot. The cleave does add to the damage output of the melee fighter. Countering by saying 'well rapid shot' is redundant - RS was included already. You're trying to count it twice.Did I say it was a monumental advantage? No. But it is a benefit.Thats your opinion and you're entitled to it. I think as a fix you've basically said "You cannot be an archer in my game" which I don't think makes much sense. Without GMW on arrows, the archer cannot deal with targets with DR which come up a lot in later levels.  Magic arrows are far too expensive to use on a regular basis.Its your world of course, so you can do as you like. I don't think bonus stacking is a problem - it's offset to some extent by power attack. The numbers convinced me of this. The damage gap is just not as big as people make it out to be and those people screaming I don't think ever really worked out how much damage a melee fighter can do.</blockquote>

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