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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5508234" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Simply Hogwash.</p><p></p><p>Most players without a software assistance tool will make a mistake with their character sheets sooner or later, and some players will do it a lot. This very rarely happens with CB.</p><p></p><p>Take 20th level.</p><p></p><p>There's 12 or 13 feat writeups that have to be written down, there's 15 powers (non-simple Essentials PC), there's probably more than a dozen powers and/or properties and/or special modifiers for magic items.</p><p></p><p>That's 40 things on a character sheet that are different from one PC to the next, at least a third of which can change as the PCs level.</p><p></p><p>The skill list and ability scores and defenses? Sure, those are pretty easy. But, the powers that can change as the PCs take feats or gain magic items will occasionally have mistakes.</p><p></p><p>With enough work (and enough time), most players can put together a character sheet. That's not the issue. The issue is whether the character sheet is correct. That's were our contention lies.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There's a lot of ways that errors can creep in. A player had +1 Scale armor and gains +2 Scale armor. He boosts his AC by 1. He doesn't realize that the new Scale armor is actually DragonScale armor that gets another +1 masterwork bonus. The DM might not even think that the armor has changed and might just say "+2 Scale armor". Opps.</p><p></p><p>You might be very knowledgeable and rarely make a mistake, but not all players are that due diligent. Not every player has every book at hand when they are working on their character sheet. And, it's pretty easy to say that it wouldn't be a problem after all of us have been spoiled with the ease of CB and used it for the last nearly 3 years, but take it away and many groups would be swamped with the work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5508234, member: 2011"] Simply Hogwash. Most players without a software assistance tool will make a mistake with their character sheets sooner or later, and some players will do it a lot. This very rarely happens with CB. Take 20th level. There's 12 or 13 feat writeups that have to be written down, there's 15 powers (non-simple Essentials PC), there's probably more than a dozen powers and/or properties and/or special modifiers for magic items. That's 40 things on a character sheet that are different from one PC to the next, at least a third of which can change as the PCs level. The skill list and ability scores and defenses? Sure, those are pretty easy. But, the powers that can change as the PCs take feats or gain magic items will occasionally have mistakes. With enough work (and enough time), most players can put together a character sheet. That's not the issue. The issue is whether the character sheet is correct. That's were our contention lies. There's a lot of ways that errors can creep in. A player had +1 Scale armor and gains +2 Scale armor. He boosts his AC by 1. He doesn't realize that the new Scale armor is actually DragonScale armor that gets another +1 masterwork bonus. The DM might not even think that the armor has changed and might just say "+2 Scale armor". Opps. You might be very knowledgeable and rarely make a mistake, but not all players are that due diligent. Not every player has every book at hand when they are working on their character sheet. And, it's pretty easy to say that it wouldn't be a problem after all of us have been spoiled with the ease of CB and used it for the last nearly 3 years, but take it away and many groups would be swamped with the work. [/QUOTE]
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