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<blockquote data-quote="Dr_Ruminahui" data-source="post: 5516023" data-attributes="member: 81104"><p>I guess I see both sides on this.</p><p></p><p>On one hand, I can understand that the OP is "once burned, twice shy" by WotC's earlier digital failures. However, letting those color his D&D experience such that he no longer plays a game that he enjoys seems a bit like cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.</p><p></p><p>After all, one doesn't <em>need </em>DDI and the other tools to play 4e. Sure, they can make it a lot <em>easier </em>to do so. I love CB not so much because it does the math and has all the powers/feats in one place, but because I don't have to write out what all those powers and feats do - that said, some of my players use CB and <em>still </em>write out their own power cards. So, I see no reason for the OP not to play 4e even without the digital offerings - unless he feels that the experience wouldn't be worthwhile without them, which doesn't sound like its the case.</p><p></p><p>And, if he does think that various digital programs are important/helpful/necesary, there is no reason he doesn't, every now and again, give what is currently available a hard and honest look to determine if it offers sufficient value for his money.</p><p></p><p></p><p>On the other hand, I heartily disagree with posts suggesting that he has to either jump in whole hog or abandon 4e completely. That is a false dichotomy. There is no reason he can't let his views of WotC as a company color his decisions - just like I can stop buying shoes from a company with poor labour practices. Nor is there any reason he has to wholely adopt one position or the other - just because I support environmentalism doesn't mean I have to bike everywhere and live in a biodome... doing my recyclables and donating to the Green Party are acceptable, if lesser, alternatives.</p><p></p><p>So, there is no reason the OP shouldn't play 4e <em>while also </em>trying to support WotC as little as possible and support those companies he does admire. There is absolutely no problem with him running a "paper only" campaign with only those 4e books he does have, and for him never to buy another one - if that's what's fun for him and his group. Sure, this may not be good for the continued viability of 4e, but if he is happy with what he has, that's fine. Just because someone buys the PH doesn't mean they need to buy the PH2, for example... or another WotC product. And if one of his fellow players does decide to pick up some new 4e books... well, that's no skin off the OP's nose and good for WotC to boot.</p><p></p><p>And sure, buy 3rd party adventures - there aren't a whole lot out there (at least not compared to 3/3.5), but I've heard some of them (like the EN ones) are very good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr_Ruminahui, post: 5516023, member: 81104"] I guess I see both sides on this. On one hand, I can understand that the OP is "once burned, twice shy" by WotC's earlier digital failures. However, letting those color his D&D experience such that he no longer plays a game that he enjoys seems a bit like cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. After all, one doesn't [I]need [/I]DDI and the other tools to play 4e. Sure, they can make it a lot [I]easier [/I]to do so. I love CB not so much because it does the math and has all the powers/feats in one place, but because I don't have to write out what all those powers and feats do - that said, some of my players use CB and [I]still [/I]write out their own power cards. So, I see no reason for the OP not to play 4e even without the digital offerings - unless he feels that the experience wouldn't be worthwhile without them, which doesn't sound like its the case. And, if he does think that various digital programs are important/helpful/necesary, there is no reason he doesn't, every now and again, give what is currently available a hard and honest look to determine if it offers sufficient value for his money. On the other hand, I heartily disagree with posts suggesting that he has to either jump in whole hog or abandon 4e completely. That is a false dichotomy. There is no reason he can't let his views of WotC as a company color his decisions - just like I can stop buying shoes from a company with poor labour practices. Nor is there any reason he has to wholely adopt one position or the other - just because I support environmentalism doesn't mean I have to bike everywhere and live in a biodome... doing my recyclables and donating to the Green Party are acceptable, if lesser, alternatives. So, there is no reason the OP shouldn't play 4e [I]while also [/I]trying to support WotC as little as possible and support those companies he does admire. There is absolutely no problem with him running a "paper only" campaign with only those 4e books he does have, and for him never to buy another one - if that's what's fun for him and his group. Sure, this may not be good for the continued viability of 4e, but if he is happy with what he has, that's fine. Just because someone buys the PH doesn't mean they need to buy the PH2, for example... or another WotC product. And if one of his fellow players does decide to pick up some new 4e books... well, that's no skin off the OP's nose and good for WotC to boot. And sure, buy 3rd party adventures - there aren't a whole lot out there (at least not compared to 3/3.5), but I've heard some of them (like the EN ones) are very good. [/QUOTE]
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