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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FormerlyDickensC" data-source="post: 4600717" data-attributes="member: 53954">I not only see where you're coming from, I've been there, got the T-shirt, and wore it out already. Well, there is a lot of good advice here.  But I think the bottom line is that you need a new group of players if current ones really don't want to do the RP thing. A hack and slash group will never enjoy good RP and vice versa. If you can't find a group local to get a good RP campaign going, try starting a PbP game for a little while.  I was initially turned off by how long it would take to resolve a scene. But once you're into the first scene, you can easily spend an hour or two each and every day writing posts in response to your players.  I actually learned a lot about DMing by DMing a PbP game.  It was quite rewarding, but also a lot of work as always. If you're looking for a thrilling, political intrigue, heavy role play setting for D&D, I definitely recommend Ptolus by monte cook. Google it. Otherwise, just try a new game outside of D&D or D20. But here is the KEY ---> When the group starts (whether in person or PbP) make sure you explain fully 1) what you're goals are and 2) what you're expectations are.  As long as you do these two things, and people seem excited by what you have to say, then the game should go well.  Of course, it also means you have to know what you want and expect.....But, I really just think you're going to have to find another group somehow some where.</blockquote>

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